Author: Mark Young
Date: 11:02:31 03/18/99
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On March 18, 1999 at 11:51:38, Roland Boehm wrote: >On March 17, 1999 at 16:03:42, Mark Young wrote: > >>On March 17, 1999 at 15:46:30, Dirk Frickenschmidt wrote: >> >>>On March 17, 1999 at 15:30:58, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>On March 17, 1999 at 15:03:31, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>I have an email from chess4you that says you can play Hiarcs 7 on the server as >>>>>long as you have a (C) on your handle. >>>>> >>>>>Hopefully, the controversy is over. >>>> >>>>I hope this is over to, and they do not think of taking such stupid actions in >>>>the future. >>>> >>>>Mark Young >>> >>>Hi Mark, >>> >>>as far as I understood, the only thing they wanted from you was to log off and >>>log in again, in order to install the (C) for computer account with your handle, >>>which the main operator forgot at first. >>> >>>On Gambit Soft's site he apologized for the inconvenience while clarifying that >>>they never asked you to stay off with Hiarcs7... >> >>I wish this was so dirk, and that would not have been a problem. Except I was >>never asked to log off so they could put a C on my account. >> >>I was told plain and simple in big red letters as tells shows up on the >>Chess4You server. "Make this your last game against other Chess4You computer >>accounts, Hiarcs7 is too strong to play on this server, and your rating will be >>changed to bring it into line with what it should be" > >Mr.Young > >I cannot reconstruct the tells between or admin and you. It is quite obvious to >me that there must have occured a misunderstanding. But your reaction >is unacceptable: > >Why did you log out instead of waiting for my answer? I waited for an answer and got NO RESPONSE, as I did with your admin checkonedo. >Why did you not ask the other admin? I did, Your programmer and admin for your server was online and he tried to help me, he was talking to checkonedo for me, because checkonedo would not explain why I could not play the other computer accounts. I even talked to you and asked you straight up, is it alright for me to play the Chess4you computer accounts. You told me YES. So as soon as I started playing Redbaron, after I asked you. I see Checkonedo go to my game and resign it. I sent tell to you asking why this was done. You would not respond. I even sent a message to OilB you head admin, begging for help from this unfair action. I have never heard for him or you. You have not sent me 1 e-mail trying to work this out. All I got was silence, until I made you actions public. Now you want talk. >Why did you not send a message to me or the other present admin? Checkonedo would not talk to me, and you just lied to me and had my game resigned. I seen the head admin of the sight was OilB I thought he may have some honor, so I messaged him for help, but to this day he has never responded to my internal message, or sent me e-mail. I could only conclude this is how you treat your customers, so I made it public. >Why did you not send an email to Olib or me instead of publishing >accusations in a newsgroup? I did, I even had Members of CCC go online to my account and see the internal message that I sent OliB. So don't tell members of this group, I sent no message before making this public. I also posted my message I sent to OliB on CCC. >Why did you not cut and paste the tells of CheckOneDo? I was not out to get you, why would I cut and paste a tell for and admin. Think about it. I do know what the hell he said, and I explained and asked for help to OilB. >From where did you cut and paste the message to Olib? From You server, I typed message OliB,<and cut and pasted to ccc> My message was there with the date and time I sent them message ASKING FOR HELP FROM THIS UNFAIR ACTION. I have CCC member who have seen this message live on my account that can backup this message was went at this date and time. >Why do you give as "evidence" such a message? Think about it....Look at the date and time...Why would I send a message like this to your head admin and why would your head admin not respond to this message if my account was not true, and it shows I tried to work out this problem before I went public. The problem was you did not wish to work it out. >A cut and paste from the Chess4You site?! Yes, and I had CCC members who have seen this message on your Chess4you site, Thats why I gave them my password to see it live for themseleves and they did. I took this action because you lied about the account of what happend, I was not going to have you lie about this message I sent, begging for help. There was no misunderstanding....give my a break. > > >In the messages box of your user list you see the messages you receive and not >the messages you send ! > > If you send a message to Olib it looks like this: > >The following message was sent to Olib: > test > >So would you please inform me where you cut this message from? Do you want to play this game on CCC. Where I have CCC members who went up to my account and seen the message I sent for themselves. I would love to play this game, I have members who went to my account and seen the message. More Proof that you LIE. Mark Young > >And our Netlog protocol shows that Olib was not logged in at that time!!! > > Olib logged out on Saturday 13 at 23:34MET >and logged in again at 01:12MET. He was not logged in at 00:34 or 00:45 >Logged in where three other admins which telled with you. > >And you cannot tell with a person that is not online! > >Not even the words of "your" message say that you are banned. I never said I was banned, I said Hiarcs7 was banned. >You lost one (1) game because you did not follow the instructions of >CheckOneDo. CheckOneDo would have set you on the noplay list of our >programs if he had wanted to prevent you from playing our programs at all. >You played without a (C), against a human player too, and did not let correct >us that mistake. And that is why you lost one single game. > >> >><Cut and paste from the Chess4You site> >>Messages to OliB: >>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:35 MET: Hello, Can you help me. Checkonedo >>has said he is changing my rating and I can no longer play other computers on >>this network. He will not talk to me or tell me why. >>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:38 MET: Why is my rating being Changed. I >>am on other chess networks and have never had this happen to me. Checkonedo says >>my ratings are wrong, but a +200 to +300 rating over crafty programs is what I >>have on other >>\ chess playing sites like FICS, Chessnet, ICC. Can you help me, this is >>unfair. >>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:42 MET: And I can't understand why the >>admin messages me this in a game, not to play anymore games and he is changing >>my rating, then will not responed to my tells when I try to find out why he is >>doing this. Thank you >>\ for your help. >> >>You have no messages from OliB. > >You have no messages from OliB??? > >Where do you want to have cut that from? > >> >>Dirk, please help me, This is the message I got from Checkonedo, the admin at >>Chess4you. Do you see anywhere in there about just logging off the Chess4You >>site so they could put a "C" on my account. > >You got this message from CheckOneDo? >A message to Olib? >I cannot believe this! > >> >>This was never brought up until they needed a story to cover their actions, >>after I went public with how they were treating their customers. >> >>I was told plain and simple that Hiarcs7 could not play on the chess4you site, >>because Hiarcs7 was to strong and beating up their home computer accounts. >> >>Mark Young >> >> >> >>> >>>Hope I could help, and have fun in testing... >>> >>> >>>Regards from >>>Dirk > > >errol >Chess4You
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