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Subject: Re: Never lost or drawn a game against a 150pt lesser player in 155 games

Author: Charles Milton Ling

Date: 11:43:31 03/18/99

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On March 18, 1999 at 14:06:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 18, 1999 at 10:07:01, Charles Unruh wrote:
>
>>I have played 155 tournament games in my career and i have never lost or drawn a
>>single game against any person that was 150 rating points below me.  In a mere 6
>>game match yermo could be expected to take H7 out 6 0.  My rating is currently
>>in the 1900s.  I'm sure there are many players with similar records.  This leads
>>me to believe that there is some error when one predicts that in a 6 game match
>>that a 2500 player should score 2/6 against a 2630 player.  I certainly hope H7
>>is much stronger than 2500, otherwise this will just increase speculation about
>>the progs strength.  This because if it loses all of the games we can only judge
>>it's strength by the quality of play not by how many games it lost.  A 2500
>>player would be a much better purely investigative experiment.  Alas we must
>>take what we can get.  This match should be more fun from a spectators point of
>>view, but from an investigative point of view, there may not be much knowledge
>>gleaned, unles H7 is considerably stronger than 2500.  Everyone primarily has
>>been wanting to demonstrate that comps are at least 2500 first.
>
>
>While I obviously won't argue with your 'data', you are a 100-sigma deviation
>from the normal curve as defined by Elo.  IE first, how many players have you
>played 150 points below you?  if you have played 20 and lost none, that is a
>remarkable (and highly non-repeatable for most others) result.
>
>Because in a match, with a player 200 points lower, you should expect to lose
>1 or draw 2 of every 4 games... roughly...
>
>And that is just simple statistics based on the Elo rating system..

100 sigma?  I suppose my former post is rather stupid, then, and should
preferably be disregarded.
Charley



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