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Subject: Re: Fruit looses in 12 moves

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:43:40 11/14/05

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On November 14, 2005 at 08:27:30, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 13, 2005 at 22:49:30, Axel Schumacher wrote:
>
>>[Event "Blitz:4'+1""]
>>[Round "16"]
>>[White "Deep Sjeng 1.6"]
>>[Black "Fruit 2.2.1"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "B40"]
>>[WhiteElo "2704"]
>>[BlackElo "2845"]
>>
>>{AMD 1670 MHz  W=9.4 ply; 160kN/s  B=11.9 ply; 329kN/s}
>>1. e4 {0} c5 {0} 2. Nf3 {0} e6 {0} 3. d4 {0} cxd4 {0} 4. Nxd4 {Both last book
>>move 0} Nf6 {
>>0.30/11 11} 5. Nc3 {0.01/0 0} Qb6 {0.14/11 10} 6. e5 {0.01/0 0} Bc5 {0.23/11 5}
>>7. Be3 {(Nd4-b5) 0.01/0 0} Ng4 {-0.14/11 8} 8. Qxg4 {(Qd1-d2) 3.64/9 16} Qxb2 {
>>2.11/12 25} 9. Kd2 {4.19/9 7} Qxa1 {(Bc5xd4) 2.65/12 13} 10. Qxg7 {5.62/10 9}
>>Rf8 {4.53/12 98} 11. Ndb5 {(Nd4-b3) 6.02/9 14} Be7 {(Bc5-b4) 9.44/10 5} 12. Bg5
>>{12.24/8 7} d5  1-0
>>
>>[D] rnb1k2r/pp1p1ppp/1q2pn2/2b1P3/3N4/2N1B3/PPP2PPP/R2QKB1R b KQkq - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:
>>
>>1. = (0.24): 7...Nf6-g4 8.Qd1xg4 Qb6xb2 9.Nd4-b5 Qb2xa1+ 10.Ke1-e2 Bc5-e7
>>11.Nb5-c7+ Ke8-d8 12.Qg4-c4 Qa1-b2 13.Nc7xa8 Qb2xc2+ 14.Ke2-e1 Nb8-c6 15.Bf1-d3
>>Nc6xe5 16.Bd3xc2 Ne5xc4 17.Be3xa7
>>2. ² (0.33): 7...Nf6-d5 8.Nc3xd5 e6xd5 9.Nd4-b5 0-0 10.Be3xc5 Qb6xc5 11.Qd1-d4
>>Qc5xd4 12.Nb5xd4 Nb8-c6 13.Ra1-d1 Nc6xe5 14.Nd4-f5 Rf8-e8 15.Rd1xd5
>
>
>First of all this is definitely a book problem.  Anybody that plays chess knows
>the reason GMs memorize book moves is because there are thousands of hidden
>traps in the openings.  Whoever wrote that both programs were out of book at
>move 4 is also wrong.  Just look at the time used for white for moves 6 & 7.
>Also, I'm only a 1500 player and even I know that 5... Qb6 is not a good move.
>Quite simply, this opening needs to be booked several moves longer.
>Jim

I do not know that 5...Qb6 is not a good move.
I know that developing the queen in the opening is not considered as a good idea
but I do not play 1.e4 c5 except correspondnece games and I know that Qb6 is a
common move in that opening.


I can see that 5...Qb6 was played in the high level and based on shredder7.ctg
it was played 17 times against average rating of 2481 and the performance of
black was 2472 based on result of 8/17

Note that I played 7...Qb6 in more than one correspondence game and (maybe it
was a mistake but at least lot of GM including kasparov play this mistake)

Here is my last game when I offered a draw and my opponent accepted when all my
moves(except the draw offer) are the same moves that kasparov also played.

[Event "Edited game"]
[Site "URI-AMD"]
[Date "2005.11.07"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Zigurds Dauga"]
[Black "Uri Blass"]
[Result "*"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qb6 8.
Qd2 Qxb2 9. Rb1 Qa3 10. f5 Nc6 11. fxe6 fxe6 12. Nxc6 bxc6 13. e5 dxe5 14.
Bxf6 gxf6 15. Ne4 Qxa2 16. Rd1 Be7 17. Be2 O-O 18. O-O Ra7 19. Rf3 Kh8 20.
Rg3 Rd7 21. Qh6 Rxd1+ 22. Bxd1 Rf7
*


Uri



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