Author: Mark Young
Date: 12:32:42 03/18/99
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On March 18, 1999 at 14:46:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On March 17, 1999 at 14:53:36, Mark Young wrote: > >>On March 17, 1999 at 14:49:07, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>> >>>On March 17, 1999 at 14:38:25, KarinsDad wrote: >>> >>>>On March 17, 1999 at 14:13:47, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I agree with everything you said except for the server rule issue. Giving out >>>>>a password is a 'death penalty' crime in most places. Because that _instantly_ >>>>>removes any accountability for actions taken by that user. IE once you publish >>>>>your password, someone uses that account, logs on and is abusive to a player, >>>>>and there is no way to get to the 'right person'. >>>> >>>>Robert, >>>> >>>>In normal circumstances, I would agree with you on this 100% and not have stated >>>>what I did. However, this is not a case of several individuals knowing a >>>>password and the administrators do not know that more than one individual knows >>>>the password. This is a case of one person giving his password out publically >>>>(within view of the administrators) so that many others could determine the >>>>veracity of his statements. Knowing the reasons that he did this and knowing >>>>that hundreds of people could then use that account to log in, the administrator >>>>can shut down playing capability on that account, give Mark a new account (if he >>>>wanted one), and can also shut down the account within a week or two, once the >>>>controversy dies out. Due to extenuating circumstances here, the administrator >>>>could have been reasonable and ignored the letter of the law in this case. >>> >>>Why? The guy is trying to kill his business as well as breaking his rules. I >>>can easily understand the attitude, "Eesh, let's just get rid of this guy." >> >>I agree, I was a bad boy... The problem is I already have left the server...:) >>I have banned them... >> >>Mark Young >>> >>>bruce > >just my 2 cents: > >1. I think you ran into an admin that was pretty ambiguous in what he was >doing, perhaps making a quick decision that was wrong. > >2. I think you got zapped by the right-hand/left-hand problem. You said you >checked "C" when you registered, but it didn't get flagged. Someone made an >error. And I think 'your' admin over-reacted thinking you were 'cheating' or >whatever. > >3. I think you missed a tell, where someone said log off and back on so your >(C) will show up. Easy to do. I miss 'em all the time on ICC/chess.net > >4. I think you blew up too quickly. By your time-line all this transpired >within a 6 hour window or so. You really should have kept it 'on the server' >for longer than that, since you weren't banned. Going public looks like you >were trying to embarass them, whether that was what you wanted or not. It >was how it looked. > >I have had problems on ICC. Spoofing and adjudications as Bruce mentioned. And >I usually dialog with the admins and often get a 'fix', sometimes just get a >'sorry'. But I'd rather be present and sorry, than 'absent'. > >A good point to remember at times... Bob what you say could have happend, but I tried my best to work it out with them. I sent mail, sent tell, etc. To this day, I have not gotten one message for them. The only time I got a response was when I made this public. And then only to say my account was a lie. Mark Young
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