Author: Bernhard Bauer
Date: 07:24:16 11/15/05
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On November 15, 2005 at 10:10:46, Robert Hollay wrote: >On November 15, 2005 at 09:35:47, Bernhard Bauer wrote: > >>On November 15, 2005 at 05:06:51, Ómar Skúlason wrote: >> >>>On November 15, 2005 at 01:55:47, Robert Hollay wrote: >>> >>>> It's nice to trying to make Fruit Open Source stronger, but one thing I miss >>>>in Fruit is Personality settings. >>>> There's a small number of engines with Personality settings (and they are >>>>all Winboard engines) which can be installed under Arena. >>>> My question is: is it a hard work to build in Personalities which could >>>>be passed as an UCI parameter? It would be nice to have the strongest free >>>>engine with adjustable strength from an Absolute novice to the Strongest GM, >>>>and different playing styles ... and all this with one click in a combo box, >>>>without bothering with tens of parameters! >>>> I don't think there are more than a few people who has real chances against >>>>Fruit when it plays with it's full strength. >>>> I think that many users would appreciate this. >>>> >>>>Regards, Robert >>> >>>Hi all. >>> >>>First of all, I want to thank the authors for this engine; GambitFruit. >>>I think they are 3, Fabien, Thomas and Ryan. >>>Toga II and now GambitFruit are giving the name _clone_ a new meaning. >>>They are not so terrible anymore. >>>The idea of downgrading a strong engine is stupid if you did ask me. >>>There are plenty of weeker engines around. >>>And I want to ask Ryan about this new engine. >>>Why this name? Do you aim for a gambit style? >>>So, thanks again for this engine. It gave me much fun over the weekend. >>> >>>Ómar. >> >>Hi Omar, >>I second your comments. >>Thanks to Fabien, Thomas and Ryan. >>The idea of downgrading a strong engine is stupid. IMHO too. >>Too things are endless, the universe and the human folly. >>regards >>Bernhard > > Yes, _downgrading_ a strong engine is stupid. >But what do you mean by "downgrading"? Adding a possibility to adjust it's >playing strength and playing with different personalities? >Then what about commercial chess programs which also have personality >settings, or what about ProDeo for example? IMHO it is stupit to play a Crafty with Capablanca personality. It has nothing to do with the real Capablanca. Same holds for Fisher, etc. However it may be funny to play a fritz which blunders away his pieces. This gives you the feeling of winning, regardless how weak your opponent is. > IMHO much more stupid is having a super-strong chess engine and just looking >at engine-engine matches and watching how effectively it crushes the weaker >ones. If that's only what you want, then you don't need another clone of Fruit, Here I fully agree. I don't do engine-engine matches. I do analysis and for my purposes every engine now available is weak. >just wait until Toga becomes stronger. Yes, I do. I wait for a stronger Toga or a stronger GambitFruit. Kind regards Bernhard
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