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Subject: Re: Fruit looses in 12 moves

Author: Chessfun

Date: 11:17:22 11/15/05

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On November 15, 2005 at 07:59:16, Günther Simon wrote:

>On November 15, 2005 at 07:38:34, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On November 15, 2005 at 06:15:17, Günther Simon wrote:
>>
>>>On November 15, 2005 at 01:54:08, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 14, 2005 at 23:44:34, Günther Simon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 14, 2005 at 19:01:09, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 14, 2005 at 14:56:25, Günther Simon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 14, 2005 at 14:31:24, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...
>>>>>>>>>Hello Uri,
>>>>>>>>>Your game has nothing to do with the topic that I can see.  I just searched the
>>>>>>>>>almost 512,000 games in the Chessbase database.cbh that came with one of the
>>>>>>>>>programs.  There is not one game with the position after 5....Qb6.  You can
>>>>>>>>>argue all you want about some people who have played that position but you
>>>>>>>>>cannot convince me it's a good move.  It may have surprise benefits if you have
>>>>>>>>>done some home analysis or you are playing some correspondence game where you
>>>>>>>>>have time to work out all problems or can find games already played from that
>>>>>>>>>position to give you ideas.  Obviously, Deep Sjeng had an advantage here with
>>>>>>>>>"prior knowledge" of the position backed up by a couple more book moves.
>>>>>>>>>Congrats to the book maker.
>>>>>>>>>Jim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?461610
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You missed the point.
>>>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?461624
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I wonder how much redundant info will still arise in this thread?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As long as you count yours as one post, fine with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My post contained already all necessary infos about the setup flaw
>>>>>>>and about the too short search time for such a position...
>>>>>>>(independent from Fruit)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Guenther
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I missed no point. I simply pointed Jim to the fact that engine books were not
>>>>>>used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>And what is the meaning of telling him something he knew already?
>>>>
>>>>Are you psychic? how would you know what he knew? clearly not by reading his
>>>>post as if you did you would clearly notice from the post I replied to and his
>>>>reply to mine that he didn't know that engine books were not used.
>>>>
>>>>"Obviously, Deep Sjeng had an advantage here with "prior knowledge" of the
>>>>position backed up by a couple more book moves. Congrats to the book maker."
>>>>
>>>>Do you need a further explaination or is it clear enough now?
>>>
>>>?? You behave really weird here and I will let moderate your last post.
>>>Haven't you still got that Deep Sjeng was favoured in this game,
>>>because it used by accident a _second_ book with more moves than Fruit?
>>>That's what we all were talking about and I don't see what's your problem
>>>to grasp this from Jims post, from mine and from others in this thread?
>>
>>Again if you simply go back to my original post, it wasn't a matter of what I
>>got. Jim's impression was that engine books were used. I simply pointed him to
>
>Jim was just under the impression of the truth :)
>Axel told he used a short book for both programs, but that was
>simply proven wrong long before Jim posted first.
>Me, Jim and most others in this thread knew that Deep Sjeng used
>an extra engine book.
>The pgn itself contained the proof.
>Axel just made a mistake and you still refer to his mistake instead
>of the latter messages proven him wrong.
>
>If this still does not clear things for you up, I cannot help you.

You keep going round it the same circle. And once again assume I need something
cleared up which I didn't and don't.

Why assume Jim had read the whole thread and therefore knew? all I did seeing as
it seemed he didn't know was point him to a thread. Pretty simple actually, it
didn't need or require any comments from you about thread redundancy and you've
carried that redundancy on ever since.

Thanks
Sarah.




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