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Subject: Re: ZAPPA used the best Hardware once again

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:33:36 11/15/05

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On November 15, 2005 at 18:05:56, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>On November 15, 2005 at 17:40:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 14, 2005 at 14:31:48, Theo van der Storm wrote:
>>
>>>On November 13, 2005 at 23:24:31, enrico carrisco wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 13, 2005 at 20:49:56, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 13, 2005 at 13:17:38, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Much stronger than all other programs!
>>>>
>>>>According to the official website, DIEP used stronger hardware than Zappa.
>>>>
>>>>-elc.
>>>
>>>There is no statement that DIEP used stronger hardware than Zappa.
>>>The official website says:
>>>
>>>Zappa  	2xAMD dual-core Opteron, 2200 MHz
>>>Diep 	Quad Opteron 2400 MHz
>>>
>>>As a first very crude step in the comparison:
>>>2 x 2 x 2200 Mcycles = 8800 Mcycles
>>>is faster then
>>>4 x 2400 Mcycles = 9600 Mcycles.
>>
>>That is wrong.  I'd take 4 x 2400mhz any day.
>>
>>9600mhz > 8800mhz in the math I use.  :)
>>
>>Plus I'd rather have two single-core cpus rather than one dual-core.  Or in this
>>case, four single-cores rather than 2 dual-cores.
>
>Surprisingly the benchmark appears better for 1 dual-core than 2 single core in
>this test :
>http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20051107/single_core_cpus_aint_dead_yet-10.html
>except for the momery transfert where the single is 2 times faster
>http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20051107/images/image029.gif
>
>It's a bit puzzling :-s

Depends on the test.

a single dual-core can beat two single-cores, if there is not a lot of "shared
data" to deal with in cache.  Most benchmarks are written like that...


>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>furthermore:
>>>If from
>>>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_8800~97051,00.html
>>>we may conclude that a dual AMD Opteron processor gives about 86% additional
>>>power in comparison with single processors at the same speed,
>>>Diep has an even bigger advantage.
>>>
>>>Still, a thourough analysis using chess programs as benchmark
>>>on the actual machines is required to prove your statement.
>>>Evidently the tournament organisation does not have access
>>>to these machines, so it is beyond their(our) scope.
>>>
>>>Can anyone present real measurements?
>>>
>>>Theo



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