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Subject: Re: The first results of my new 5+5 Ratinglist

Author: Ómar Skúlason

Date: 12:11:15 11/17/05

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On November 17, 2005 at 13:06:05, Per Jørgensen wrote:

>Hello Chesscomputerfriends!
>
>Several Months ago I got the idea to make a Ratinglist similar to the one Klaus
>Wlotzka is making for CSS (Computer Schach und Spiele) but with one important
>difference. While Klaus is testing with 10 min. for the whole game plus 10 sec.
>per made move I would be testing with only half the time (5+5). Fortunately
>Klaus thought it was a good idea and I would like to thank him for support and
>advice during the process. I did a lot of testing and I managed to develop a
>Ratinglist of 17 Engines (each one having played 320 games). At that time I
>realized that my Hardware wasn't strong enough to cope with the needs of modern
>Engines (especially Fritz 9 which in my opinion requires at least 512 kb Level 2
>Cache to perform at its maximum). Consequently I have purchased new Hardware:
>
>Asus A8V Motherboard, Socket 939, FSB 1.000 MHz
>AMD Athlon 64 4000+, 2.4 GHz, 1 MB Level 2 Cache, 90 nm San Diego Core
>2 x 512 MB Corsair PC 3200XLPT RAM (CAS Latency 2-2-2-5)
>
>A couple of days ago I started the new testseries and I'm still playing with the
>thinking time 5+5. As mentioned earlier I am testing the way Klaus Wlotzka is
>doing: 10 basic openingpositions that each engine has got to play with white and
>black meaning that an Enginematch equalizes 20 games. If you are interested in
>further details (like the specific openingpositions) I refer to the excellent
>Website of CSS: www.computerschach.de. It's my aim, just like Klaus Wlotzka, to
>develop a Ratinglist of app. 25 Engines. So far I have been testing 5 Engines
>and here are the results:
>
>AMD Athlon 64 4000+
>64 MB PC 3200 Ram (CAS Latency 2-2-2-5)
>8 MB Cache for TB's
>TB's: Nalimov - 3 + 4 Pieces
>Pondern Off
>
>Fritz 9 - Shredder 9: 11½-8½
>Spike 1.0a Mainz - Fritz 9: 7½-12½
>Spike 1.0a Mainz - Shredder 9: 8½-11½
>Fruit 2.2.1 - Fritz 9: 6-14(!)
>Fruit 2.2.1 - Shredder 9: 11½-8½
>Fruit 2.2.1 - Spike 1.0a Mainz: 14-6
>The King 3.33 - Fritz 9: 7½-12½
>The King 3.33 - Fruit 2.2.1: 6-14
>The King 3.33 - Shredder 9: 9½-10½(!)
>The King 3.33 - Spike 1.0a Mainz: 10-10
>
>And here is the current standing in points after each engine have played 80
>games:
>
>1. Fritz 9 50½
>2. Fruit 2.2.1 45½
>3. Shredder 9 39
>4. The King 3.33 33
>5. Spike 1.0a Mainz 32
>
>I guess that this standing is not a big surprise but at least 2 things are
>remarkable: 1) The King 3.33 have so far made a very strong performance and
>perhaps this huge and comprehensive Programme benefits from my quite fast
>Hardware and 2) Although each engine have only played 80 games Fritz 9 leads
>Shredder 9 by more than 10 points! When I made my last Ratinglist on my old
>Hardware Shredder 9 was app. 30 Ratingpoints ahead of Fritz 9, I certainly don't
>expect this to happend again!
>
>The next engines to be tested are Ruffian 2.1.0 and Loop List.
>
>Best regards
>Per Jørgensen

Hi Per!

The report of your fine hardware update; got me to think
about what is an _ordinary_ hardware for us "hometesters".
We sometimes talk about "the strongest engine on ordinary hardware" or
"strongest engine for 1 cpu".
I thougt for a moment that you were favoring Fritz with "512 level 2 cache"
but I guess it is still ordinary, at least it was in my comp when I
looked just now.
But I think that you must get you all 5 men TB if you want to be
respected :-)
And.. Ruffian is old news, I would rather see you test GambitFruit with
every parameter turned on including the mistic Rebel Reduction.

Best regards, Ómar.





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