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Subject: Re: It is now only a problem of money to lead the ssdf list convincingly

Author: blass uri

Date: 04:51:55 03/19/99

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On March 19, 1999 at 07:11:57, James T. Walker wrote:

>On March 19, 1999 at 06:55:15, blass uri wrote:
>
>>Knowing the opponent is allowed so you can buy many computers
>>play 1000 games against every posiblle opponent and remember the games that your
>>program won and repeat them.
>>
>>I believe that a program can get more than 2700 ssdf rating list in this way.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hello Uri,
>Frankly, I don't understand your constant whining about Junior5's games and nit
>picking details about how it could have 5 more points if this or that happened.

I think you are right that knowing the opponent could not give Junior5 more than
5 points elo because the only way that I know to use knowing the opponent for
Junior is changing the contempt factor.

I believe that nimzo99 earns more from the anti-Rebel,anti-Fritz,anti-Junior
otherwise they would not bother to do it and I do not like it.

It gives bigger advantage to new programs that can prepare against previous
programs and we can learn less about the improvement in the engines.

>Why can't you just accept the SSDF ratings for what they are !  They merely give
>you a ballpark figure of strength against other computer programs.  If you are
>going to constantly complain about these little things which make very little
>difference in the ratings then in all fairness you should look objectively at
>all the games and make sure all programs are getting fair treatment.  Not just
>Junior 5.

I am interested mainly in Junior5 so I am going to look mainly at Junior5's
games
I am from Israel so I want Junior to get good results.
I try to do what I can to do Junior5 better by giving ideas how to improve
Junior to Amir Ban.

  And while we are talking about Junior 5, I would like to know if the
>SSDF is allowing Junior 5.0 to use the Fritz endgame CD for it's games.  Since
>this is not a part of Junior 5 it should not be allowed period.  Or else it
>should be called "Junior/Fritz 5" since it is the combination of the two.
>Jim Walker

I agree that using the CD rom of Fritz5 should not be allowed for Junior5
I know that the ssdf is using this CD rom and I do not know if it is productive
or counter productive.

Junior can lose a drawn game because of these stupid tablebases.
I do not know if it happened because not all the game are public.

Junior also can miss practical chance for winning because the tablebases tell it
to lose a pawn instead of trying to win the drawn position.

Uri



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