Author: chandler yergin
Date: 00:19:52 11/19/05
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On November 19, 2005 at 03:04:19, Eelco de Groot wrote: >On November 19, 2005 at 02:37:01, chandler yergin wrote: > >>Every Engine will evaluate a position differently. >>Games are not won or lost based on centipawn evaluations.. >>There are good moves and bad moves. >>Simply go to Toolbar >>Window >>Panes >>and from Menu select: >>Explain all moves >> >>Do it from the starting position >>You will see that the Program evaluates every legal move in every position >>on the board. That is the Root Position. >>It evaluates every legal move on the board every time a move is made. >>This becomes the new Root Position and the Search & Evaluation begins again. >>Also, the Hash Tables are cleared. >> >>What is the success of Fruit for example? >>IMO Fruit does not use EGtb's so it searches faster. >>It uses minimum hash which also speeds up the engine search. >>It is not a race between the Hare and the Tortoise.. >>The fastest does win the race. >>Playing games with engines Fruit is not encumbered by large Hash Tables >>You don't need them! >>Better to set your Engine to Default Settings, Drop your Hash to 1 MG >>See if you don't have better results. > >Chandler are you trolling again ??? :) "You don't need hashtables, 1 Mb is >enough. Foe engine/engine matches of course it is. This speeds up the search" ??? Of course it does! "You don't need opening books, just make >your own from a big database, the bigger the better" ??? Absolutely. "You don't need EGTBs, >Fruit does not use EGTBS (this is no longer true for latest commercial Fruit but >you are very right that it brings not much elo)" Thanks, we agree "You don't need centipawn >evaluation" Oh it's an indication, but as I said every engine will evaluate a position differently. Well, no.. On CTF: "You don't need programmers, they are part of the >problem" Running Tests, Matches etc are great. If they think they can improve on the normal function of the Min/Max and Alpha Beats search Algorithm, IMO they are wrong. Spending 40 hours a week or full time trying to put in moves or change the weights etc.. etc.. is rather futile. I'm talking top Commercial Programs.. If you want to tweak your little choo choo.. be my guest. Letting it run for 20 - 40 hours to see if your centipawn evaluation changes.. fine with me, but it's a waste of time. When your engine stalls.. it's an indication your Hash Tables are filled up. Simply hit the Space Bar.. play the move, the position now becomes the Root, Hash Tables are cleared and the search begins again. This is undoubtedly true, they should be abolished! And you also do not >really need a computer or computerprogram to play chess. >Board and pieces is more than enough. If you want you can add a chessclock. An >real opponent is also nice, so GoTo a chessclub. Always clear your hashtables >and consider every legal move, you can't go wrong! That's what the Program does. No you can't go wrong. > >Silly regards, >Eelco If you don't want to learn and just be rude, well you have a nice day anyway. Chan
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