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Subject: Re: Kasparov-Ribli, 1989

Author: Mark Young

Date: 12:24:56 03/19/99

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On March 19, 1999 at 14:36:48, blass uri wrote:

>
>On March 19, 1999 at 13:49:07, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On March 19, 1999 at 12:48:04, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>5rk1/5ppp/p1Q1p3/1R6/q7/4b1P1/P2RPP1P/6K1 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>The key is 1. Rd8, which Kasparov didn't find.
>>>
>>>It isn't hard to find for a computer, but I think they will typically think it
>>>is a draw.  Can anyone find a score that indicates *significant* advantage to
>>>white?
>>
>>Hiarcs7 has a nice + score for this position for the start. Here is Hiarcs7 line
>>after about 30 secs on a P II 400.
>>
>>10->30  27  1487kN  d2-d8 f8xd8 b5-d5 a4-d4 d5xd4 e3xd4 c6xa6 g8-f8 = 309
>>
>>Hiarcs 7 score only increased as it searched deeper, and the line was almost the
>>same.
>>
>>>
>>>What this means in practice is, can anyone resolve (hopefully from the root) the
>>>near-perpetual after:
>>>
>>>1. Rd8 Qxb5 2. Qd6 Bxf2+ 3. Kxf2 Qf5+
>>
>>Hiarcs 7 scored the position after this line at +593
>
>The question is if it scored it at +593 for the correct reason because I saw a
>case in the ssdf games when Hiarcs7 scored a repetition line as positive.
>
>Fritz5.32 did a draw against Hiarcs7 because of this reason.

This is hard to show one way or the other, so I let Hiarcs7 autoplay the
position to see if it could win as white. It did, and here is the game and
scores.

PII 400, Level: 15 sec a move/avg.

[Event "autoplay"]
[Site ""]
[Date "1999.03.19"]
[Round ""]
[White "HIARCS"]
[Black "HIARCS"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "5rk1/5ppp/p1Q1p3/1R6/q7/4b1P1/P2RPP1P/6K1 w - -"]

{H701: 65472Kb, <3000589a>}
1. Rd8 {H7: 11   1.Rd8 Rxd8 Rd5 Qd4 Rxd4 Bxd4 Qxa6 Bc3 Qb6 Rd1+ Kg2 Bf6 a4
Bd8 =  329}
1... Qxb5 {H7: 08   1...Rxd8 Rd5 = -342}
2. Qd6 {H7: 07   2.Qd6 Bxf2+ =  482}
2... Bxf2+ {H7: 08   2...Bxf2+ Kxf2 Qf5+ Kg1 Qb1+ Kg2 Qe4+ Kh3 Qf5+ g4 Qf1+
Kg3 Qg1+ Kf3 Qf1+ Ke3 = -463}
3. Kxf2 {H7: 10   3.Kxf2 Qf5+ Kg1 Qb1+ Kg2 Qe4+ Kh3 Qf5+ g4 Qf1+ Kg3 Qg1+ =
463}
3... Qf5+ {H7: 09   3...Qf5+ Kg1 Qb1+ Kg2 Qe4+ Kh3 Qf5+ g4 Qf1+ Kg3 Qe1+ Kf3
Qf1+ Ke3 Qc1+ Kf2 Qc5+ Qxc5 = -563}
4. Kg1 {H7: 12   4.Kg1 h6 =  600}
4... Qb1+ {H7: 12   4...Qb1+ Kg2 Qe4+ = -633}
5. Kg2 {H7: 12   5.Kg2 Qe4+ =  633}
5... Qe4+ {H7: 11   5...Qe4+ Kh3 Qf5+ = -624}
6. Kh3 {H7: 11   6.Kh3 Qf5+ =  624}
6... Qf5+ {H7: 09   6...Qf5+ g4 Qf1+ Kg3 Qg1+ = -633}
7. g4 {H7: 10   7.g4 Qf1+ Kg3 Qg1+ =  633}
7... Qf1+ {H7: 10   7...Qf1+ Kg3 Qg1+ = -633}
8. Kg3 {H7: 12   8.Kg3 Qg1+ =    0}
8... Qe1+ {H7: 09   8...Qe1+ Kf3 Qf1+ Ke3 Qh3+ Kd4 Qxg4+ Kc3 h5 Rxf8+ Kh7
Rxf7 Qxe2 Qg3 Qg4 Qxg4 hxg4 = -633}
9. Kf3 {H7: 09   9.Kf3 Qf1+ Ke3 Qh3+ Kd4 =  609}
9... Qf1+ {H7: 08   9...Qf1+ Ke3 Qh3+ Kd4 Qxg4+ Kc3 h5 Rxf8+ Kh7 Rxf7 Qxe2
Qg3 Qg4 Qxg4 hxg4 = -630}
10. Kg3 {H7: 09  10.Kg3 Qe1+ =  633}
10... Qe1+ {H7: 10  10...Qe1+ Kf3 =    0}
11. Kf3 {H7: 11  11.Kf3 Qf1+ =    0}
11... Qf1+ {H7: 08  11...Qf1+ Ke3 Qh3+ Kd4 Qxg4+ Kc3 h5 Rxf8+ Kh7 Rxf7 Qxe2
Qg3 Qg4 Qxg4 hxg4 = -630}
12. Ke3 {H7: 09  12.Ke3 Qh3+ Kd4 Qxg4+ Kc3 h5 Rxf8+ Kh7 Rxf7 Qxe2 Qg3 Qg4
Qxg4 hxg4 =  630}
12... Qc1+ {H7: 09  12...Qc1+ Kf2 Qf4+ Qxf4 Rxd8 Qc7 Rf8 Qb6 Ra8 Qc6 Rd8 Qxa6
= -693}
13. Kf2 {H7: 10  13.Kf2 Qf4+ Qxf4 Rxd8 Qc7 Rf8 Qb6 a5 Qxa5 f5 g5 Rc8 =  702}
13... Qf4+ {H7: 10  13...Qf4+ Qxf4 Rxd8 Qc7 Rf8 Qb6 a5 Qxa5 f5 gxf5 exf5 Qd5+
Kh8 a4 = -711}
14. Qxf4 {H7: 07  14.Qxf4 Rxd8 Qc7 Rf8 Qa7 f5 g5 =  670}
14... Rxd8 {H7: 11  14...Rxd8 Qc7 Rf8 Qb6 a5 Qa6 h6 = -731}
15. Qc7 {H7: 11  15.Qc7 Rf8 Qc6 a5 Qa6 a4 Qxa4 h6 Qd7 Ra8 a4 =  763}
15... Rf8 {H7: 10  15...Rf8 Qb6 a5 Qxa5 f5 gxf5 exf5 Qd5+ Kh8 a4 f4 = -730}
 *

I stop the game at this point because it is an easy win for white.


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>Uri



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