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Subject: Re: Fun Rating List........All Fruits

Author: Chessfun

Date: 19:00:18 11/19/05

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On November 19, 2005 at 20:47:39, Heinz van Kempen wrote:

>On November 19, 2005 at 20:08:43, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>
>>All Fruit 2.2 and 2.2.1 games at 40/40
>>Each played the exact same opponents 10x
>>All original engine books, general ctg where none made.
>>AMD XP 2600+ and AMD X2 4200+ 128 Mb 3, 4 and 5 person tablebases.
>>All engines shown no minimum games
>>Both Fruit versions 2.2 and 2.2.1 results will be combined in all future lists.
>>
>>    Program                     Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>
>>  1 Fruit 2.2.1               : 2706   34  33   280    67.5 %   2579   36.4 %
>>  2 Fruit 2.2                 : 2705   32  31   280    67.3 %   2579   41.8 %
>>  3 Fritz 9                   : 2682   31  30   320    62.0 %   2596   37.8 %
>>  4 Shredder 9                : 2665   29  29   340    63.5 %   2569   39.4 %
>>  5 Shredder 8                : 2664   29  29   350    60.6 %   2590   37.1 %
>
>Hi Sarah,
>
>the top with hardly difference between Fruit 2.2 and Fruit 2.2.1, followed by
>Fritz 9 and Shredder 9 looks somehow familiar and reminds me another rating list
>I am watching from time to time :-).
>
>Best Regards
>Heinz

Yes there is no doubt that currently these engines are ahead of the field. It's
about time maybe that others finally caught up since Shredder has been leading
the way for a long time.

I wish I had a more definitive idea on what the benefits of tablebases were. But
it does seem a very minimal amount. Of course the way Fruit handles them is very
different from say Shredder so maybe the result is somewhat expected. Combining
them I now think makes sense, since none will now run games in future with 2.2

Sarah.



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