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Subject: Re: Dutch Open: the story of the game Fruit - Diep

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 01:44:35 11/20/05

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What you are doing now is what I think people would call beating a dead horse.
There is no need for this.  It is easier to get over the fact that Arturo and
Vincent won this time and better prepare for the next time you meet.  No matter
the outcome of the next match I hope there is much less bitterness after the
next game.

Ryan Benitez

On November 20, 2005 at 03:28:47, JNoomen wrote:

>On November 19, 2005 at 16:19:19, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>Hi Arturo,
>
>There is no need to reveil any of your preparation, as you were out of book
>earlier than Fruit. Diep calculated the move ... Qc7 by itself. As I stated in
>my posting the position after 19.Kb1! is better for white. Not only I did this
>by giving a very thorough explanation why this is the case, I also provided
>games as a proof. Computers misplay this position as they overrate their attack.
>
>I proposed Vincent to play a rematch to find out whether his claim 'we all
>prepared this and Fruit will always lose against Diep from this position' is
>true. He declined. So here I am doing it again: we play a game Fruit - Diep from
>the position after 19.Kb1.
>
>Jeroen
>
>
>
>>On November 19, 2005 at 15:39:50, JNoomen wrote:
>>
>>>On November 19, 2005 at 15:02:59, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi Vincent,
>>>
>>>As I proposed to you: I would like to play a rematch Fruit - Diep with the move
>>>19.Kb1 being played. As I now have a 3-0 with Fruit against Fritz 9 with 19.Kb1,
>>>I am confident that Fruit will beat Diep as well.
>>>
>>>So name a time, a place and a date, I am ready for it!
>>>
>>>Jeroen
>>>
>>>
>>>PS  For the readers here at CCC: I proposed to play a game with 19.Kb1 after the
>>>match ended, which was refused by Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>I had decided not to reply all the garbage written here. However, my patience
>>with the baby crying is over. Since you don't stop to cry again and again, I am
>>very confident that Diep would beat you again. Diep already did it with the
>>Erdogan Book as well as with my lines that you use to call "craps" in every
>>Tournaments. In this specific Tournament, every Jeroen's line was not able to
>>beat my "crappy lines", eventhough you had the advantages to be in 3 engines:
>>Fruit, ProDeo and Sjeng (all version of your book).
>>
>>Diep doesn't have to play a specific line or game against you, because we won
>>the battle on that game. It is not a problem for Diep or me, if you failed in
>>that game.
>>
>>I won't discuss my prepration here because I won't reveal what I prepared
>>against your "great openings". Second, it would be very silly to play after a
>>certain line that you have "prepared" very well.
>>
>>Well, as far as I know, Fritz 9 is a chessbase engine or you are accussing us ob
>>being clones of Fritz 9? I know, Diep and Fritz 9 are different engines, and
>>they play differently. If you want to know what we prepared there, wait until
>>the next Official Tournament.
>>
>>Arturo Ochoa M.
>>
>>PD: Your analysis is lack of concrete variations by the way.......



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