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Subject: Re: Too weak human players?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:58:01 11/20/05

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On November 20, 2005 at 11:32:32, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 20, 2005 at 10:29:00, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>On November 20, 2005 at 09:44:53, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>On November 20, 2005 at 09:42:02, S J J wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 20, 2005 at 09:34:55, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Broadcast live on "playchess.com".
>>>>>
>>>>>Today:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hydra vs. Ponomariov
>>>>>Fritz vs Khalifman
>>>>>Junior vs. Kasimdzhanov
>>>>>
>>>>>Further infos see on chessbase.de.
>>>>>
>>>>>BTW, Fritz will played only on a notebook as replay with tournament site and
>>>>>Fritz-Server.
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have the results from last year and the participants?
>>>
>>>8,5:3,5 for the Computers.
>>
>>And there was Topalov. I expect 10:2 this year. It's long time from "computers
>>are not GM: Bob" times :-)
>>
>>Jouni
>
>The question if GM's can play better.
>
>I hope that they can do it.
>I think that they should play for a draw and take a win only if they are lucky.
>
>Kasimdzhanov seem to play closed position against hydra and it is probably good.
>He does not need to win against hydra because draw with black is not bad.
>
>Maybe he can even win on time by having a long game of more than 256 moves.
>I think that chessbase clearly deserve losing on time because they did not fix
>the bug of losing on time after more than 256 moves and they will not going to
>learn to fix the bug unless they lose a game in important tournament.
>
>They do not care when pablo beat engines on time with 260-270 moves.
>Perhaps if a GM does it to them they will care abour it.
>
>Note that the problem is simply a bug in the interface that does not send
>correct time after more than 256 moves so the engine believes that it has more
>time then it really has and lose on time.
>
>Uri

I wonder if 20...h5 was not a practical mistake of kasim after 19.h3
maybe he had better chances to win by
68...h6
118..h5
168...h4
218...a6
268...winning on time thanks to chessbase interface bug.

I do not know if there is a faster practical way to win for humans against hydra
in this position but I admit that I have no experience in this type of positions
so I do not know.

Uri



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