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Subject: Re: Too weak human players?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:04:18 11/20/05

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On November 20, 2005 at 11:58:01, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 20, 2005 at 11:32:32, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 20, 2005 at 10:29:00, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>On November 20, 2005 at 09:44:53, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 20, 2005 at 09:42:02, S J J wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 20, 2005 at 09:34:55, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Broadcast live on "playchess.com".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Today:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hydra vs. Ponomariov
>>>>>>Fritz vs Khalifman
>>>>>>Junior vs. Kasimdzhanov
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Further infos see on chessbase.de.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW, Fritz will played only on a notebook as replay with tournament site and
>>>>>>Fritz-Server.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone have the results from last year and the participants?
>>>>
>>>>8,5:3,5 for the Computers.
>>>
>>>And there was Topalov. I expect 10:2 this year. It's long time from "computers
>>>are not GM: Bob" times :-)
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>The question if GM's can play better.
>>
>>I hope that they can do it.
>>I think that they should play for a draw and take a win only if they are lucky.
>>
>>Kasimdzhanov seem to play closed position against hydra and it is probably good.
>>He does not need to win against hydra because draw with black is not bad.
>>
>>Maybe he can even win on time by having a long game of more than 256 moves.
>>I think that chessbase clearly deserve losing on time because they did not fix
>>the bug of losing on time after more than 256 moves and they will not going to
>>learn to fix the bug unless they lose a game in important tournament.
>>
>>They do not care when pablo beat engines on time with 260-270 moves.
>>Perhaps if a GM does it to them they will care abour it.
>>
>>Note that the problem is simply a bug in the interface that does not send
>>correct time after more than 256 moves so the engine believes that it has more
>>time then it really has and lose on time.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I wonder if 20...h5 was not a practical mistake of kasim after 19.h3
>maybe he had better chances to win by
>68...h6
>118..h5
>168...h4
>218...a6
>268...winning on time thanks to chessbase interface bug.
>
>I do not know if there is a faster practical way to win for humans against hydra
>in this position but I admit that I have no experience in this type of positions
>so I do not know.
>
>Uri

Note that the attack against the white king seems dangerous to me.
The logical plan that I think about is to douible rooks in the g file and play
g4.

I do not claim to know that it can work against hydra but if it can work it is
clearly faster win than h6 h5 h4,... that I suggested.

Note that I see the game is in the playchess site but I cannot copy it because
copy game does not work for me and I am too lazy to copy manually.

Uri



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