Author: Ryan B.
Date: 14:32:21 11/20/05
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As you have shown in the past that you are against anything not Toga I do not
expect your opinions to be objective and I expect you will only show positions
favoring Toga. However I think most people will understand that Gambit Fruit is
a much younger engine and seeks a much different style of play than the tactical
Toga. I think both engines should be considered useful for their own strengths.
If you are trying to start a rivalry I think this is a mistake. I have already
communicated with Thomas and have offered to contribute SMP code to both the
Toga and Gambit Fruit projects. Me and Thomas have no issues with each others
projects, you however annoy me.
Ryan
On November 20, 2005 at 16:58:02, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>First the fantastic game of Toga II 1.1 Beta3 in Thueringen (move 21. Bxh7! was
>strong, and 23. Rxc5!! was fantastic and very important):
>
>[Event "14. Thüringer Computerturnier"]
>[Site "Triebes"]
>[Date "2005.11.16"]
>[Round "3"]
>[White "Toga II 1.1 Beta3, AMD 3800+."]
>[Black "Deep Sjeng X2, ÂMD 64 X2 4400+."]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "D47"]
>[Annotator "K. Bauermeister"]
>[PlyCount "57"]
>[EventDate "2005.11.??"]
>[EventType "swiss"]
>[EventRounds "9"]
>[EventCountry "GER"]
>[TimeControl "9000"]
>
>{512MB, Toga ll Thüringen.ctg} 1. d4 {0} Nf6 {2} 2. c4 {0} e6 {4} 3. Nf3 {0} d5
>{4} 4. Nc3 {0} c6 {4} 5. e3 {0} Nbd7 {4} 6. Bd3 {0} dxc4 {4} 7. Bxc4 {0} b5 {6}
>8. Bd3 {0} Bb7 {4} 9. O-O {0} Rc8 {7} 10. Qe2 {0} Be7 {5} 11. a3 {0} a5 {4} 12.
>Rd1 {0} O-O {5} 13. e4 {0} b4 {6} 14. axb4 {0} axb4 {4} 15. Na4 {0} c5 {4} 16.
>e5 {0.38/17 657} Nd5 {7} 17. Nxc5 {0.49/16 256} Nxc5 {167} 18. dxc5 {
>0.41/16 306} Qc7 {(Txc5) 10} 19. Bd2 {0.45/17 460} Bxc5 {16} 20. Rdc1 {
>0.42/16 213} Qb6 $4 {(g6) 418} 21. Bxh7+ $1 {1.53/16 422} Kh8 {12} (21... Kxh7
>22. Ng5+ Kg6 (22... Kg8 23. Qh5 Rfe8 24. Qxf7+ Kh8 25. Qg6 Kg8 26. Rxc5 Qxc5 (
>26... Rxc5 27. Qxe8#) 27. Qh7+ Kf8 28. Qh8+ Ke7 29. Qxg7+ Kd8 30. Qxb7 $18) 23.
>Rxc5 Rxc5 (23... Qxc5 24. Qe4+ f5 25. exf6+ Kh5 26. Qh7+ Kg4 27. Qh3#) 24. Qd3+
>f5 (24... Kh5 25. Qh7+ Kg4 26. f3#) 25. Qh3 Nf6 {Einziger Zug} 26. exf6 $18)
>22. Ng5 {1.94/16 385} g6 {496} 23. Rxc5 $1 {Der nächste Hammer 3.10/16 22} Qxc5
>{(Txc5) 185} 24. Qg4 {3.35/16 385} Qe7 {146} 25. Qh3 {3.68/17 74} Kg7 {31} 26.
>Ne4 {5.17/17 436} f5 {(f6) 19} 27. Qh6+ {6.91/17 287} Kh8 {8} 28. Bxg6+ {
>7.20/17 97} Kg8 {124} 29. Ng5 {7.44/18 173} 1-0
>
>In my opinion an Gambit-Engine should see attacks faster than other Engine, or?
>
>[D]2r2rk1/1b3ppp/1q2p3/2bnP3/1p6/3B1N2/1P1BQPPP/R1R3K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Gambit Fruit 1.0 Beta 3:
>
>21.Tab1
> = (-0.13) Tiefe: 1/1 00:00:00
>21.Ta2
> ² (0.26) Tiefe: 1/1 00:00:00
>21.Ta4
> ² (0.32) Tiefe: 1/6 00:00:00
>21.Lg5
> ² (0.42) Tiefe: 1/9 00:00:00
>21.Sg5
> ² (0.59) Tiefe: 1/13 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 g6
> ² (0.60) Tiefe: 2/13 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Lh7+ Kh8
> ± (0.76) Tiefe: 3/13 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4
> ² (0.27) Tiefe: 4/13 00:00:00
>21.h3 Kh8 22.Lg5 Lc6
> ² (0.37) Tiefe: 4/18 00:00:00
>21.h3 Kh8 22.Sg5 f5 23.Df3
> ² (0.37) Tiefe: 5/18 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 g6 22.Df3 Se3 23.Dh3
> ² (0.62) Tiefe: 5/18 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 Td8
> ² (0.26) Tiefe: 6/18 00:00:01 50kN
>21.h3 Kh8 22.Lg5 h6 23.Ld2 Tfd8
> ² (0.33) Tiefe: 6/20 00:00:01 68kN
>21.Tc4 g6 22.Lg5 Lc6 23.h3 b3
> ² (0.41) Tiefe: 6/20 00:00:01 113kN
>21.Tc4 La6 22.Lxh7+ Kh8 23.Th4 Lxe2 24.Le4+ Kg8 25.Lh7+ Kh8
> = (0.00) Tiefe: 7/21 00:00:03 257kN
>21.h3 Tfd8 22.Lg5 Td7 23.Dc2 g6 24.Td1
> ² (0.27) Tiefe: 7/23 00:00:03 330kN
>21.h3 Tfd8 22.Lg5 Td7 23.Dc2 g6 24.De2 b3
> = (0.18) Tiefe: 8/23 00:00:05 668kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 Lc6 25.Ta6 Dc7
> ² (0.26) Tiefe: 8/23 00:00:06 780kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 Lc6 25.Ta6 Dc5 26.Lc2
> = (0.18) Tiefe: 9/29 00:00:09 1364kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 Lc6 25.Df3 Se3 26.Le4 Lxe4 27.Dxe4
> = (0.22) Tiefe: 10/42 00:00:19 3170kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Txc1 f5 25.Sc4 Da7 26.h3 Kh8 27.Df3
> = (0.22) Tiefe: 11/42 00:00:33 5958kN
>21.Sg5 g6 22.Sf3 b3 23.Lg5 Sb4 24.Lc4 Sa2 25.Tf1 Lxf3 26.gxf3 Kh8 27.Kh1
> = (0.01) Tiefe: 12/46 00:01:41 18827kN
>21.h3 Tfd8 22.Sg5 h6 23.Se4 Ld4 24.Sd6 Txc1+ 25.Lxc1 f5 26.Kh1 Lc6 27.Ta6 Dc7
> = (0.10) Tiefe: 12/46 00:02:18 26438kN
>21.Lxh7+ Kxh7 22.Sg5+ Kg6 23.Txc5 Txc5 24.De4+ f5 25.Dh4 Sf6 26.exf6 Dc6 27.Dg3
>Kxf6 28.Sh7+ Kf7 29.Sxf8 Kxf8 30.Lxb4
> +- (1.42) Tiefe: 12/52 00:06:01 69474kN
>
>(Nemeth, Privat 20.11.2005)
>
>2r2rk1/1b3ppp/1q2p3/2bnP3/1p6/3B1N2/1P1BQPPP/R1R3K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Toga II 1.0MV.3:
>
>21.Tab1
> = (-0.02) Tiefe: 1/1 00:00:00
>21.Ta2
> ² (0.36) Tiefe: 1/1 00:00:00
>21.Ta4
> ² (0.38) Tiefe: 1/6 00:00:00
>21.Tc4
> ² (0.39) Tiefe: 1/6 00:00:00
>21.Lg5
> ² (0.43) Tiefe: 1/9 00:00:00
>21.Sg5
> ² (0.60) Tiefe: 1/13 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 g6
> ² (0.55) Tiefe: 2/13 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4
> ² (0.41) Tiefe: 3/13 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4
> = (0.25) Tiefe: 4/13 00:00:00
>21.h4 Tfd8 22.Sg5 g6
> ² (0.31) Tiefe: 4/18 00:00:00
>21.h4 Ta8 22.Sg5 h6 23.Se4
> ² (0.32) Tiefe: 5/18 00:00:00
>21.Sg5 g6 22.Df3 Sc3 23.Df6
> ² (0.64) Tiefe: 5/18 00:00:01
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 Td8
> = (0.21) Tiefe: 6/20 00:00:01 65kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 f6 25.Sxb7 Dxb7
> ² (0.28) Tiefe: 7/26 00:00:03 163kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 Td8 25.Df3 Txd6 26.exd6 Dxd6
> ² (0.28) Tiefe: 8/33 00:00:04 365kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 f5 25.Ta2 Lc5 26.Sxb7 Dxb7
> ² (0.33) Tiefe: 9/33 00:00:09 1062kN
>21.Sg5 h6 22.Se4 Ld4 23.Sd6 Txc1+ 24.Lxc1 f5 25.Sb5 Tc8 26.Sxd4 Dxd4 27.h3
> = (0.19) Tiefe: 10/34 00:00:14 2069kN
>21.Lxh7+ Kxh7 22.Sg5+ Kg6 23.Txc5 Txc5 24.De4+ f5 25.Dh4 Sf6 26.exf6 Ta5 27.Tc1
>Ta2 28.Le3
> ± (1.21) Tiefe: 10/42 00:00:42 7861kN
>21.Lxh7+ Kxh7 22.Sg5+ Kg6 23.Txc5 Txc5 24.De4+ f5 25.Dh4 Sf6 26.exf6 Dc6 27.Dg3
>f4 28.Lxf4 gxf6
> ± (1.28) Tiefe: 11/42 00:00:59 10794kN
>
>(Nemeth, Privat 20.11.2005)
>
>Toga 1.0MV.3 is here faster.
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