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Subject: Re: Please tell me I am talking "Nonsense", but FRUIT seems to be FRUITY

Author: Timothy J. Frohlick

Date: 19:54:06 11/20/05

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Mr. Steen,

Fruit is a good program. Chess is a game based on deception. Whoever can lure
the opponent into a bad position will win. Fruit is good at being a deceiver.
Is Fruit demon-possessed? No! Fruit does spice up the playing of chess and is a
most entertaining product. I still wish that Chessbase would include a special
Fritz/Fruit edition on DVD in the near future....as the spanish would say
Fruit y Fritz.

TJ


On November 20, 2005 at 22:45:33, A. Steen wrote:

>All but one engine match (9 so far) I have played involving FRUIT 2.2/2.2.1 and
>a near competitor has resulted in FRUIT starting off badly and then catching up
>(and surpassing) later.
>
>This also seems to apply to almost all engine matches played by others reported
>here in talkchess.com, even in the slow TC SSDF ones reported here by Mr
>Hedlund.
>
>So it isn't just my trial FRUIT, or something funny about my setup.
>
>The thread just below this one ie,
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?463252
>has another example of what I am talking about.
>
>1   Fruit 2.2.1  0½0½0½½011111½½½½1½1½½10½010½0½½1½1½½½11 22.5/40
>2   Fritz 9      1½1½1½½100000½½½½0½0½½01½101½1½½0½0½½½00 17.5/40
>
>Is it a coincidence?  The numbers aren't big enough to prove anything,
>
>Or is there some subtle learning going on, RAM only, nothing on file in the
>FRUIT directory?  So when a new match begins after a shutdown of the chess GUI
>or engine or computer, it starts off afresh (or assumes a new opponent?)
>
>Please tell me I am talking "Nonsense".... could Fruit 2.2.x be already doing
>some form of "opponent-detection" that is mooted for a future Fritz?
>
>If so, FRUIT is even fruitier than I thought! :)
>
>Best,
>
>A.S.



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