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Subject: Re: Is this a draw ? (material imbalance) with diagram

Author: Kim Roper Jensen

Date: 03:36:56 11/21/05

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On November 21, 2005 at 06:36:07, Kim Roper Jensen wrote:

[D]4n1k1/3b3p/p5p1/P1QPpp2/2P1P3/2K2P2/2B3PP/2q5 w - - 3 1

This position is from a game i played - I played Kb3 and thought it was unclear
or at least a draw.

But after looking at it with chess programs(Yace, fruit and chess tiger) im not
sure, although they give black a better score they all try all kinds of checks.

So is this a draw or does someone have another conclusion ?

But only Yace tries Kb3 after some thought, and this line looks like a draw to
me.

>1.5Ghz Centrino, 256Mb Hash no TB
>00:00:00.0	-0,93	1	6	exf5 Bxf5
>00:00:00.0	-0,90	1	22	Qe7
>00:00:00.0	-0,90	1	38	Qe7
>00:00:00.0	-0,96	2	175	Qe7 Ba4
>00:00:00.0	-0,95	2	448	d6 Ba4
>00:00:00.1	-0,95	2	488	d6 Ba4
>00:00:00.1	-0,95	2	741	d6 Ba4
>00:00:00.1	-1,23	3	3021	d6 Qe1+ Kb3 Qd2
>00:00:00.1	-1,22	3	4245	Qe7 Qh1
>00:00:00.1	-1,03	3	5072	Qe7 Ba4 Qe6+ Kf8
>00:00:00.1	-1,03	3	5732	Qe7 Ba4 Qe6+ Kf8
>00:00:00.1	-1,63	4	6070	Qe7 Ba4 Qe6+ Kf8 exf5 Bxc2
>00:00:00.1	-2,09	4	9710	Qe7 Ba4 Qe6+ Kf8 exf5 Bxc2 Qxg6
>00:00:00.1	-2,08	4	13623	d6 Nxd6 Qxd6 fxe4
>00:00:00.1	-2,17	4	14237	d6 Ba4 Qd5+ Kf8 exf5 Bxc2
>00:00:00.1	-2,09	4	14237	Qe7 Ba4 Qe6+ Kf8 exf5 Bxc2 Qxg6
>00:00:00.2	-2,08	4	18419	h4 Qe1+ Kb2 Ba4
>00:00:00.2	-2,03	4	19948	h4 Ba4 Qf2 Qa3+ Kd2
>00:00:00.2	-2,00	4	23677	Qb6 Qe1+ Kb3 Qd2 exf5 Qxd5
>00:00:00.2	-1,65	4	31452	Qb6 Qa1+ Kd2 Qf1 Qb7
>00:00:00.3	-1,64	4	38095	Qb4 Qe1+ Kb3 Qxb4+ Kxb4 Bb5
>00:00:00.3	-1,32	4	44355	Qb4 Qa1+ Kb3 Nf6 Qb8+ Kf7 exf5 gxf5
>00:00:00.3	-1,32	4	45916	Qb4 Qa1+ Kb3 Nf6 Qb8+ Kf7 exf5 gxf5
>00:00:00.3	-1,32	5	64505	Qb4 Qa1+ Kb3 f4 Qe7 Qa4+ Kb2
>00:00:00.4	-1,32	5	75274	Qb4 Qa1+ Kb3 f4 Qe7 Qa4+ Kb2
>00:00:00.6	-1,29	6	249089	Qb4 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2 Qe7 Ba4 Qe6+ Kf8
>00:00:00.6	-1,29	6	281258	Qb4 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2 Qe7 Ba4 Qe6+ Kf8
>00:00:00.8	-1,61	7	472560	Qb4 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2 c5 Qxg2 c6 Bc8
>00:00:01.4	-1,60	7	945399	Kd3 Qf1+ Kc3 Qxg2 Qe7 Bc8 Qxe8+ Kg7
>00:00:01.9	-1,35	7	1350629	Kd3 Qf1+ Kc3 Qa1+ Kd2 f4 g3 Qh1 Qf2 Nd6
>00:00:01.9	-1,35	7	1356425	Kd3 Qf1+ Kc3 Qa1+ Kd2 f4 g3 Qh1 Qf2 Nd6
>00:00:04.0	-1,68	8	3172465	Kd3 Nf6 Qe7 fxe4+ fxe4 Qf1+ Kc3 Qa1+ Kd2 Qxa5+ Kd3
>Nxe4 Kxe4 Bf5+ Kxe5 Bxc2
>00:00:04.5	-1,67	8	3575137	Qb4 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2 c5 Qxg2 c6 Ng7
>00:00:04.7	-1,48	8	3818228	Qb4 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2 c5 Qxg2 c6 Bc8 Qe7
>00:00:05.1	-1,48	8	4103054	Qb4 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2 c5 Qxg2 c6 Bc8 Qe7
>00:00:11.5	-1,23	9	9562144	Qb4 f4 Kb3 Qe3+ Qc3 Ba4+ Kb4 Bxc2 Qxc2 Nd6 Qc3 Qe2
>00:00:12.3	-1,23	9	10172961	Qb4 f4 Kb3 Qe3+ Qc3 Ba4+ Kb4 Bxc2 Qxc2 Nd6 Qc3 Qe2
>00:00:21.1	-1,29	10	18383992	Qb4 Kf7 Qb7 Nf6 exf5 gxf5 Qc7 Qe1+ Kb3 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2
>g3 Ke7
>00:00:25.0	-1,29	10	21659853	Qb4 Kf7 Qb7 Nf6 exf5 gxf5 Qc7 Qe1+ Kb3 Qe3+ Kb2 Qe2
>g3 Ke7
>00:00:37.5	-1,69	11	31424231	Qb4 fxe4 fxe4 Nf6 c5 Bg4 Kb3 Bd1 Qb8+ Kg7 Qxe5
>Bxc2+ Kb4
>00:00:41.7	-1,72	11	35226420	Qb4 fxe4 fxe4 Nf6 c5 Bg4 Kd3 Be2+ Kxe2 Qxc2+ Ke1
>Qc1+ Ke2 Qf4 Qb8+ Kg7 d6
>00:01:14.3	-1,71	11	61252052	Kb3 Ba4+ Kxa4 Qxc2+ Kb4 Qxg2 Qc6 Qd2+ Ka4 Kf8 exf5
>gxf5 Qc5+ Kf7 Qa7+ Nc7 Qxc7+ Kf6
>00:01:32.5	-0,89	11	77161225	Kb3 Ba4+ Kxa4 Qxc2+ Kb4 Qxg2 Qe7 Qb2+ Ka4 Ng7 Qd8+
>Kf7 Qc7+ Kf8 Qc8+ Ke7 d6+ Kxd6 Qf8+ Kc7 Qxg7+ Kc8
>00:01:32.8	-0,89	11	77385569	Kb3 Ba4+ Kxa4 Qxc2+ Kb4 Qxg2 Qe7 Qb2+ Ka4 Qc2+ Kb4
>Qd2+ Ka4 Qd1+ Kb4 Qe1+ Ka4 Qa1+ Kb4 Ng7 Qd8+ Kf7 Qd7+ Kf8 Qd6+ Ke8
>00:01:33.0	-0,89	11	77555422	Kb3 Ba4+ Kxa4 Qxc2+ Kb4 Qxg2 Qe7 Qb2+ Ka4 Qc2+ Kb4
>Qd2+ Ka4 Qd1+ Kb4 Qe1+ Ka4 Qa1+ Kb4 Ng7 Qd8+ Kf7 Qd7+ Kf8 Qd6+ Ke8
>00:01:59.0	-0,89	12	100687017	Kb3 Ba4+ Kxa4 Qxc2+ Kb4 Qxg2 Qe7 Qb2+ Ka4 Qc2+ Kb4
>Qd2+ Ka4 Qd1+ Kb4 Qe1+ Ka4 Qa1+ Kb4 Ng7 Qd8+ Kf7 Qd7+ Kf8 Qd6+ Ke8 Qb8+ Ke7
>00:02:08.1	-0,89	12	107691845	Kb3 Ba4+ Kxa4 Qxc2+ Kb4 Qxg2 Qe7 Qb2+ Ka4 Qc2+ Kb4
>Qd2+ Ka4 Qd1+ Kb4 Qe1+ Ka4 Qa1+ Kb4 Ng7 Qd8+ Kf7 Qd7+ Kf8 Qd6+ Ke8 Qb8+ Ke7
>00:06:23.4	-0,78	13	314347353	Kb3 Ng7 Qe7 Qe3+ Kb4 Qd2+ Kb3 Be8 exf5 Ba4+ Kxa4
>Qxc2+ Kb4 Qb2+ Ka4 Qa1+ Qa3 Qb1
>00:06:44.9	-0,78	13	329882043	Kb3 Ng7 Qe7 Qe3+ Kb4 Qd2+ Kb3 Be8 exf5 Ba4+ Kxa4
>Qxc2+ Kb4 Qb2+ Ka4 Qa1+ Qa3 Qb1
>00:07:29.6	-0,78	13	364694767	Kb3 Ng7 Qe7 Qe3+ Kb4 Qd2+ Kb3 Be8 exf5 Ba4+ Kxa4
>Qxc2+ Kb4 Qb2+ Ka4 Qa1+ Qa3 Qb1



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