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Subject: Re: Dr. Hyatt and Chess Ratings

Author: Ted Summers

Date: 08:59:43 11/21/05


On November 21, 2005 at 10:35:34, Richard Heldmann wrote:

>On November 20, 2005 at 21:19:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 20, 2005 at 20:56:42, Sherry Windsor wrote:
>>
>>>Dr Hyatt now admits reluctantly that computers are now GM strength,
>>>unfortunately he is still stubbornly stating that they are not over 2600? To me
>>>this looks very prejudicial. I think they are easily playing at the 2750 level.
>>
>>Define "computers".
>>
>>Do you mean a big multi-cpu opteron, or a single-cpu home system?
>>
>>There is a huge difference...
>>
>>I don't admit anything "reluctantly".  In 1995 when this discussion started,
>>computers were nowhere near GM strength.  They are now clearly playing at that
>>level, thanks to great advances in hardware speed from 1995.  But they are not
>>quite super-GM (2700+) yet, unless you talk about very pricey hardware.  Not a
>>$500 home computer.
>
>In the current man vs machine match in the city of Bilbao, Spain, Alexander
>Khalifman vs Fritz 9(Bilbao) running at 1.6 million positions per second on a 2
>GHz Centrino notebook, Alexander Khalifman lost in 39 moves.  Ruslan Ponomariov
>vs Deep Junior 9.1 searching 6,300,000 positions per second on a dual core AMD
>machine was also no competition.  Hydra, the only pricey hardware, had the
>closest match, but still beat Rustam Kasimdzhanov.
>
>See http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2747

With the exception of Fritz 9 I would not call the other to systems Desktop PC's
the kind that Mr. Hyatt is speaking of.

Note also:

FIDE Top 100 Oct 2005

http://www.fide.com/ratings/top.phtml?list=men

19	 Ponomariov, Ruslan	 g	 UKR	 2704
35	 Kasimdzhanov, Rustam	 g	 UZB	 2670
50	 Khalifman, Alexander	 g	 RUS	 2653

Here I only see one 2700+ player, and he is not a very strong one at that.



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