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Subject: Re: Fritz 9 Blunders with Bc2- what Fritz???

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 23:00:05 11/21/05

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On November 21, 2005 at 22:48:17, George Speight wrote:

>
>I set up the position and my Fritz 9 looks at nothing but QxQ, and makes this
>move in 3 seconds. And anlyzises his position as up 2.6  Figure it any way you
>want, but when my Fritz 8 or 9 says he is up over 2.5, human or computer can
>resign.

Wrong

I do not have Fritz9 but I will be surprised if it does not say more than +3 in
some fortress positions

Shredder has some knowledge about it but even shredder cannot see some simple
draws and say more than +2.5 in some drawn positions.

New game,
[D]6k1/p1p1p1p1/PpPpPpPp/1P1P1P1P/8/8/2B1R3/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 9 UCI:

1.Kf2
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
1.Kf2 Kf8
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:00
1.Kf2 Kf8 2.Ke3
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 3/3   00:00:00
1.Kf2 Kf8 2.Ke3 Ke8
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 4/4   00:00:00
1.Kf2 Kf8 2.Ke3 Ke8 3.Kd2
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 5/5   00:00:00
1.Kf2 Kf8 2.Ke1 Ke8 3.Kf2
  =  (0.24)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00  1kN
1.Re3
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00  1kN
1.Re3 Kf8 2.Kf2 Ke8 3.Ke1
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00  1kN
1.Re3 Kf8 2.Kf2 Ke8 3.Re2 Kf8 4.Ke1 Ke8 5.Kf2 Kf8 6.Ke1 Ke8 7.Kf2
  =  (0.24)   Depth: 7/7   00:00:00  2kN
1.Kf2
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  2kN
1.Kf2 Kf8 2.Ke3 Ke8 3.Kd2 Kd8 4.Re3
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 7/13   00:00:00  2kN
1.Kf2 Kf8 2.Ke1 Ke8 3.Re3 Kd8 4.Re2
  ²  (0.26)   Depth: 8/13   00:00:00  4kN
1.Rd2
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 8/13   00:00:00  7kN
1.Rd2 Kf8 2.Rd3 Ke8 3.Re3
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 8/13   00:00:00  7kN
1.Rd2 Kf8 2.Rd3 Ke8 3.Re3 Kf8 4.Kf2 Kg8
  ²  (0.26)   Depth: 9/13   00:00:00  10kN
1.Bd3
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 9/13   00:00:00  13kN
1.Bd3 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Re3
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 9/13   00:00:00  13kN
1.Bd3 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Re3 Kf8 4.Kf2 Ke8
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 10/13   00:00:00  16kN
1.Bd3 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Re3 Kf8 4.Kf2 Ke8 5.Kf3 Kd8 6.Re2
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 11/13   00:00:00  20kN
1.Bd3 Kf8 2.Kf2 Ke8 3.Ke3
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 12/13   00:00:00  27kN
1.Be4
  ²  (0.29)   Depth: 12/13   00:00:00  28kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 12/13   00:00:00  32kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 13/13   00:00:01  60kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3 Kb8
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:01  85kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3 Kb8 8.Kg4
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 15/15   00:00:01  114kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3 Kb8 8.Kf2
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 16/16   00:00:01  143kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3 Kb8 8.Kf2 Ka8
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 17/17   00:00:02  196kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3 Kb8 8.Kf2 Ka8
9.Kg3 Kb8
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 18/18   00:00:02  294kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3 Kb8 8.Kf2
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 19/19   00:00:02  572kN
1.Be4 Kf8 2.Kg2 Ke8 3.Kf2 Kd8 4.Re3 Kc8 5.Kg2 Kb8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd3 Kb8 8.Kf2
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 20/20   00:00:02  699kN

(,  22.11.2005)

New game,
[D]1k6/p1p1p1p1/1pPpPpPp/1P1P1P1P/8/8/4R3/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 9 UCI:

1.Ra2
  +-  (7.09)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
1.Ra2
  +-  (7.40)   Depth: 2/3   00:00:00
1.Ra2 Ka8
  +-  (7.44)   Depth: 2/3   00:00:00
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2
  +-  (7.53)   Depth: 3/5   00:00:00
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8
  +-  (7.58)   Depth: 4/6   00:00:00
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3
  +-  (7.69)   Depth: 5/7   00:00:00
1.Ra2 Ka8
  +-  (8.00)   Depth: 6/7   00:00:00
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8
  +-  (8.04)   Depth: 6/8   00:00:00
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4
  +-  (8.06)   Depth: 7/9   00:00:00  1kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8
  +-  (8.11)   Depth: 8/10   00:00:00  3kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4
  +-  (7.91)   Depth: 9/11   00:00:00  5kN
1.Ra2 Ka8
  +-  (8.16)   Depth: 10/11   00:00:00  7kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 10/12   00:00:00  8kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ra3
  +-  (8.06)   Depth: 11/13   00:00:00  11kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ra3 Kb8
  +-  (8.11)   Depth: 12/14   00:00:01  16kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ra3 Ka8 6.Ra4
  +-  (8.16)   Depth: 13/15   00:00:01  31kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ra3 Ka8 6.Ra4 Kb8 7.Ke4 Ka8
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 14/18   00:00:01  42kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3 Kb8
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 15/18   00:00:01  52kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3 Kb8
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 16/18   00:00:01  62kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3 Kb8 7.Kd4 Ka8
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 17/18   00:00:01  75kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 18/19   00:00:02  96kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 19/20   00:00:02  140kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 20/22   00:00:02  168kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 21/22   00:00:02  205kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 22/24   00:00:02  241kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kd4 Kb8 5.Ke4 Ka8 6.Ke3
  +-  (8.26)   Depth: 23/26   00:00:03  291kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kf3 Kb8 5.Ke4
  +-  (8.27)   Depth: 24/26   00:00:03  380kN
1.Kg2
  +-  (8.28)   Depth: 24/27   00:00:03  445kN
1.Kg2 Kc8 2.Kf1 Kb8 3.Ra2 Ka8 4.Ke2 Kb8 5.Rxa7
  +-  (8.29)   Depth: 24/27   00:00:04  496kN
1.Kg2 Kc8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Kc8 4.Ra2 Kb8 5.Rxa7
  +-  (8.30)   Depth: 25/29   00:00:04  667kN
1.Ra2
  +-  (8.31)   Depth: 25/29   00:00:04  670kN
1.Ra2 Ka8 2.Kf2 Kb8 3.Ke3 Ka8 4.Kf3 Kb8 5.Rb2
  +-  (8.31)   Depth: 25/29   00:00:04  675kN
1.Rg2
  +-  (8.32)   Depth: 25/31   00:00:05  752kN
1.Rg2 Kc8 2.Kf2 Kd8 3.Kg3 Kc8 4.Ra2 Kb8 5.Rxa7
  +-  (8.32)   Depth: 25/31   00:00:05  852kN
1.Rg2 Kc8 2.Kf2 Kd8 3.Ke3 Kc8 4.Kf4 Kb8 5.Kg3
  +-  (8.32)   Depth: 26/31   00:00:05  942kN
1.Kg2
  +-  (8.33)   Depth: 26/31   00:00:05  949kN
1.Kg2 Kc8 2.Kf3 Kb8 3.Rb2 Kc8 4.Ra2 Kb8 5.Rb2 Kc8 6.Ra2 Kb8 7.Rb2
  +-  (8.35)   Depth: 26/31   00:00:05  970kN
1.Kg2 Kc8 2.Kf3 Kb8 3.Rb2 Kc8 4.Rh2 Kb8 5.Ra2
  +-  (8.34)   Depth: 27/31   00:00:08  8256kN
1.Kg2 Kc8 2.Kf3 Kb8 3.Rb2 Kc8 4.Rh2 Kb8 5.Ra2 Ka8 6.Rb2 Kb8 7.Re2
  +-  (8.32)   Depth: 28/31   00:00:41  44807kN
1.Kg2 Kc8 2.Kf3 Kb8 3.Rb2 Kc8 4.Rh2 Kb8 5.Ra2
  +-  (8.32)   Depth: 29/36   00:00:49  53636kN
1.Kg2 Kc8 2.Kf3 Kb8 3.Ra2 Ka8 4.Rb2 Kb8 5.Ke4 Kc8 6.Ra2
  +-  (8.33)   Depth: 30/36   00:00:56  61457kN

(,  22.11.2005)

Uri



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