Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:51:58 11/21/05
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On November 22, 2005 at 01:52:43, Russell wrote: >On November 22, 2005 at 00:10:15, Chessfun wrote: > >>On November 22, 2005 at 00:01:43, Russell wrote: >> >>>On November 21, 2005 at 23:42:22, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>On November 21, 2005 at 20:36:01, Russell wrote: >>>> >>>>>Shredder 9 would own Tiger, Fruit 2x, any thing u name it in Blitz TC such as 3 >>>>>0 5 0. Fruit is best for long TC however. >>>> >>>> >>>>And what data do you have that supports that opinion? >>>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/blitz.htm >>>> >>>>Sarah. >>> >>>Note the author mentions blitz TC at 3 0 or 5 0 with Ponder ON in ICC. The Url >>>that u posted is not even close TC to 3 0 or 5 0. That Time Control is >>>considered as Standard Chess on regular ICS. Plus, important to note that it was >>>tested with ponder off I belive. wait 40/4 means 40min + 4 Inc? or 40 moves in 4 >>>min? >> >> >>Actually the original post in this thread made no mention of either ICC or >>ponder=on. Further at any ICS 3 0 or 5 0 are still considered blitz, not >>standard chess. I quote the original post in this thread for reference; >> >>"Hi >>Has anyonelse noticed that Chesstiger 2004 has good results against Fruit 2.2.1 >>at 3 0 and 5 0 blitz? However Schredder 9 seems to own Tiger at this time." >> >>Also if you are talking about ICC although you never mentioned that in your post >>either then naturally, who knows what hardware was being used by any of the >>named programs. >> >>Last, the time controls on the rating list indicated are 40 moves in 4 minutes >>repeating. >> >> >>Sarah. > >Further at any ICS 3 0 or 5 0 are still considered blitz, not >>standard chess. > >Um Who said 3 0 or 5 0 are standard chess? Although ur right in that the author >does not mention ICC, the author does play at ICC however (u can ask him/her). >Considering she posted tc = 3 0 it can be easily presumed that it was played >with ponder on otherwise its useless and necessarly doesnt mean anything. (y >would u want to test in 3 0 with ponder off?)For ex, Ruffian 1.0.1 killed Fritz >8 in my P4 with those conditions b4(3 0 and ponder off). However when Ruffian >was put in ICS with similitude hardware against Fritz with same TC and this time >ponder on, Ruffian lost. That is the main reason I always say If u want to test >Programs use it on any ICS with ponder on and similar hardware. By the same logic you can say that ponder on means nothing and if you want to test you should use ponder off. I see no reason to say that one test is not important. one program may have bugs in one of the options. If Fritz has bugs with ponder off or Ruffian has bugs with ponder on then it is important information for the authors. Uri
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