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Subject: Re: Human versus Engine - victory ! BUT, IT WAS BARELY CHESS.

Author: Graham Banks

Date: 19:26:44 11/23/05

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On November 23, 2005 at 19:05:15, A. Steen wrote:

>On November 23, 2005 at 05:49:58, Maurizio Monge wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>could you please post a few of your games agaist fruit?
>>I am very interested (as chess player) to see how fruit
>>can be beaten by a strong player..
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Maurizio
>
>
>Please, beating Fruit is not difficult for a human player, and is no proof of
>strength. Many games have been posted here already showing how Fruit is
>defeated.
>
>If you look here-
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?463395
>you will find a weak player beating Fruit 2.2.1.
>
>Why I find Shredder and Fritz (latest) much harder to defeat than Fruit is hard
>for me to "data-mine" (and find the underlying rule or reason).  Fruit's king
>safety seems to be an Achilles heel, but it is not the answer.  Maybe the other
>two make me walk the tightrope more.
>
>When I buy my copy of Fruit soon (my free download trial version has I think
>expired or will expire in the next day or two) I will select a good victory and
>probably email it to you. If I post it here, you will hear barking that I am
>boasting or something ridiculous.
>
>But..
>
>To avoid any doubt, I think Fruit 2.2.1 and its cousin the latest Toga are the
>best engines to use in computer vs. computer games.
>
>I am not anti-Fruit.
>
>Also, for analysis, Fruit seemed to me preferable than Shredder - and definitely
>preferable to Fritz which should not be used for many types of position!
>
>Best,
>
>A.S.


No problem with your posting some of your victories against Fruit 2.2.1 here for
us all to enjoy. I also look forward to playing through them.

Regards, Graham.



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