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Subject: Re: A. STEEN vs. FRUIT 2.2.1 {Posted at request of Graham Banks & M. Mon

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 07:23:53 11/24/05

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On November 24, 2005 at 10:06:44, A. Steen wrote:

>On November 24, 2005 at 09:44:22, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>
>>>[TimeControl "900"]
>>
>> Does this mean 15 minutes for the whole game?
>
>Of course.
>
>>Did Fruit had this time control.......?
>
>Yes.
>
>> Also did you had this time control to play or have you allowed more time to
>>yourself......?
>
>As it happened, on only one move did I take more than about 5 seconds.

Hard to believe.......! I could do it with 9 seconds per move but 5 seconds it's
too quick for me..........

>
>>1...Nc6? is bad for a computer and not only, i think......
>
>Please see-
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?464150

I saw that. It's better to use Fruit's book i think......

>
>>Yet it was a nice presentation
>
>Thank you.
>
>>and a nice win......!
>
>Incorrect.  Fruit committed suicide.  After the opening Fritz, Shredder or even
>Junior would have created confusion and some attempt at counterplay.  Fruit let
>even a child win there.

Actually yes, Fruit just played too peacefully. Only its Nxc5 and g5 was
somewhat active.........

>
>>>TableBases: About 300 Gb
>>
>>3+4+5 tablebases i guess, or did you have and 6 pieces? If yes then which of
>>them.....?
>
>As Nalimov 3+4+5 only occupy about 7 Gb storage, you already have your first
>answer.

Oops, i forgot that.......

>
>As to which 6-men (attention! "pieces" strictly excludes pawns, so "men" is
>better),

No! Pieces include Pawns too.
From FIDE Laws of the game:

"At the beginning of the game one player has 16 light-coloured pieces (the
'white' pieces); the other has 16 darkcoloured pieces (the 'black' pieces)"

>it makes zero difference to this game.  I downloaded from /hyatt and
>since it shut down by file-sharing, and also had computed some.  My collection
>is about 25% complete.  I believe ShredderChess have completed or nearly
>completed the full set, btw.

Do you have the EXE that can compute 6 piece tablebases? Can you send it to
gtsavdar@auth.gr   I have many tablebases generators but i don't know if they
can generate 6-piece........




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