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Subject: Re: Doesn't seem to be a "good vs humans" program

Author: gerold daniels

Date: 05:32:22 11/25/05

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On November 25, 2005 at 07:11:52, Andrey Popov wrote:

>On November 25, 2005 at 01:50:48, Derek Paquette wrote:
>
>>AFter the second man vs machine tournament this year, it seems its harder and
>>harder to pinpoint a great program vs a human.  Hydra is a monster, it beats
>>programs and humans, junior is not as good vs program, but did good vs humans,
>>both times.  Fritz 9 is great vs program, and did well vs humans.  Zappa beat
>>the gm and other programs
>>
>>I think its becoming clear that high elo is just what it seems, high elo,
>>doesn't matter if its against programs or humans
>>
>>
>>opinions?
>
>There are some weaker programs (as Crafty and Rebel) which beated both GMs and
>anti-computer experts even in 10 years old hardware. It is almost impossible to
>draw with them.
>On the other side, Fruit is dangerous against computer but beatable to humans.

How many games have a gm or anybody beat the latest version of Fruit or Toga.
In any tourney. I am still looking for someone who has beat them.

Gerold.



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