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Subject: Re: Easy to do? Then play some more and post them.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:27:53 11/25/05

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On November 25, 2005 at 12:09:33, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On November 25, 2005 at 10:35:27, Roger D Davis wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>Since I am not absurd, my conclusion must be and is based on many games I have
>>>played vs Fruit (not engine-engine games, human-engine games).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Steen, that's great. Given the ease with which they can be played, please play
>>some more games this weekend and post them. The games will silence your critics.
>>Either that, of the lack of additional games will prove that you're simply
>>exaggerating.
>>
>>Roger
>
>This games would of course never silence critics. First of all thinking time and
>scores are missing.
>
>Of course nobody right in one's mind claims he scores 80% against Fruit on a
>decent machine (even Kasparov,Kramnik,Anand etc. with say 1/2 a year preparation
>are not able to do that), and _nobody_ right in one's mind actually believes
>such claims.

If humans can prepare against determnistic machine then they only need to
remember some winning lines and use them but I believe that if you change some
parameters in fruit between games and do not tell people about your changes then
no human will be able to score 80% against fruit in 10 games.

Maybe a strong GM who decides to play against it in the style of pablo in
playchess in order to beat it on time may get 80% on playchess but it is because
of a bug in the playchess server and fruit under another interface is not going
to lose on time after 256 moves.

Uri



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