Author: A. Steen
Date: 12:29:26 11/25/05
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I have so little time today and I have just seen this most insightful and if I may say upper-class understanding of matters. Please see here - http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?464455 and you can have my overview in a few lines. It may not stay there very long, as I have seen in my email something like a final warning. It may be a hoax. I thank you for your support, but please be aware (you probably already are) that it is dangerous to support me here. You too will doubtless get flamed further than has already happened in this thread. Checking here - http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/index.html?from=0&to=168&view_by=thread for my earlier messages, you can see some annotations by me of the Kasimdzhanov game which stirred up much emotion. The Fruit game is by comparison only a divertimento. Best, A.S. On November 25, 2005 at 11:21:00, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >1) Could anyone tell me where I could actually download just the games from CCC? >I remember we had that possibility longer ago. Many thanks to all. > >2) I want to lead you all in the FRUIT threads to a better way of handling >things without appearing in the least arrogant. I want in these threads and have >just taken a short oversight flight to get an impression. I must admit that I am >shocked how almost all residents treated the author and player A. Steen. In the >meantime I know who he is, I wrote it in CTF but I want to keep his anonymity >for sake of the communication here in CCC. I beg all interested in reversing >their attitude towards A.S. He got extremely hard attacks for nothing but his >class. Yes, I for one could see it in almost seconds, but it's true that I have >extremely good tools to judge text bodies and style although I'm a foreigner - I >have seen that A.S. must be a very good master player, to meet the line of his >own understatement. Already in a short look I saw that. > >Now think for a moment that you were A.S. and you have tried to participate here >in CCC and you were attacked on that typical chess level we all experienced in >our chess clubs. On every level we know people who act as if they knew almost >all. It's very difficult to talk with such players. Unless you are from these >first boards of the first team. Then everybody closes mouth until the expert is >away and then the whole game continues. Here it is in a virtual reality. >Swaminathan is very smart and asked A.S. for his Elo rating but A.S. declined >for a single reason. He doesn't want to win the arguments with a baseball stick >but with his arguments alone. > >It is also true that for an expert it's difficult to handle attacks because he >knows he knows better the truth or what comes close to it. What should he do if >people dont ask but instead explain what the truth should be in their eyes? And >if that is on a relatively low level? It's the same situation for a >psychologist: he cant therapize a client without his strong want to get this >help. Look, it's so funny. If you are a "teacher", you must face the situation >on the net that all students want to tell you their personal view in relation to >a rather low esteem for the declarations of the teacher himself. > >In such a situation a "teacher" is forced to evade into sarcasm and irony and he >has extreme difficulties to remain polite. If then moderators appear and feel >provoked by this newbie with the all too knowie attitude we approach a dull >alternative to democratic procedures that would protect the minority in one >position of e.g. A.S. > >But overall I want to mention that A.S. did a fantastic job and I'm sure we wont >see such analyses here for years to come. Because who should take that risk >next? > >In CTF I wrote about the underlying conflict from the perspective of amateurs >and their favorites against top professionals and this is a conflict because >A.S. has praised the professionals. And that should be possible in CCC. Without >directly getting heavy flames. > > >------------------------------ > >If you still have no idea who A.S. really was, I may direct your attention to >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?464384 - please re-read the >message. > >After a short thought you must get the idea! You might be surprised that you >didn't discover that earlier. > >Doesn't matter. > >But we must improve our general attitude on the chess net. If we are in real >just average patzers, we can't change that on the net even with fifty computers >helping out. Of course we are polite on chessbase.com or playchess.com if >masters appear, but then we know that they are masters. But it's much more >difficult to behave if we don't know the authentic titles and strength of such a >master. THEN it becomes a lackmustest for our own intelligence if we can detect >the class in the messages of a master. > >All the best to all of you and a special admiring head bow in direction of A.S. >who surely had the biggest fun in this arena. That had almost the dimensions of >a Greek tragic comedy, no? :) > >Rolf :)
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