Author: James T. Walker
Date: 14:29:59 11/25/05
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On November 24, 2005 at 06:44:58, phili_ppe wrote: >On November 24, 2005 at 05:58:30, Henrik Dinesen wrote: > >>On November 24, 2005 at 04:03:25, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >> >>>After ten games Fruit is leading with 4 wins 3 draws and 3 losses. I really >>>don't see too much difference between Fruit or Toga and will probably wait for >>>both to be included in the next update to Fritz 9 on DVD. >>> >>>Both programs are excellent and prevail against most of my prior programs >>>including Shredder 8...but not by much. >>> >>>Life is good, >>> >>> >>>TJ >>> >>>PS I keep giving the hint at this site for Chessbase to make Fabien an offer he >>>can't refuse. I want him to profit from his art and refine his excellent >>>program. >> >>An observation: ChessBase has an one program on one disc policy. Exception is >>DJ8 with DJ8ZX and DJ8XY. The remaning engines included has always been >>freewares. >>Also, CB likes to release in the eng-format, only exception was Shredder up till >>version 8, which also included the UCI version. >>BTW, Toga is free, and I don't think anything would hinder CB in including it on >>their discs (could be wrong here), except it might be an advertice for Fruit, >>and it probably wouldn't be too good if it beats Fritz too often! >> >>I thinks it's great like is, Fruit being sold by Fruitchess and Toga/Gambit >>Fruit being under "constant" developement!! Keeping up the competition :-))) >> >>Regards >>Henrik > >As I said, why would people waste their money with Fruit 2.2.1 if TogaII v1.1 is >as strong as it ? Give me a hint please For what its worth, I don't think Toga is as strong as Fruit. I admit they are very close. I only test Blitz games these days and Toga II 1.1 after 300 games is 6 Elo below Shredder 9 UCI and 39 Elo below Fruit 2.2.1. I have only played Toga II 1.1 vs Shredder 9 UCI/Fritz 8/Junior 9 and Hiarcs 9 so far. It's a strong engine but since it's based on another program and is basically a clone I don't understand why it's even allowed by the original author. Even if it only cost him one sale it is a mistake to allow it as a free engine. Jim.
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