Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:42:15 11/25/05
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On November 25, 2005 at 17:29:59, James T. Walker wrote: >On November 24, 2005 at 06:44:58, phili_ppe wrote: > >>On November 24, 2005 at 05:58:30, Henrik Dinesen wrote: >> >>>On November 24, 2005 at 04:03:25, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>> >>>>After ten games Fruit is leading with 4 wins 3 draws and 3 losses. I really >>>>don't see too much difference between Fruit or Toga and will probably wait for >>>>both to be included in the next update to Fritz 9 on DVD. >>>> >>>>Both programs are excellent and prevail against most of my prior programs >>>>including Shredder 8...but not by much. >>>> >>>>Life is good, >>>> >>>> >>>>TJ >>>> >>>>PS I keep giving the hint at this site for Chessbase to make Fabien an offer he >>>>can't refuse. I want him to profit from his art and refine his excellent >>>>program. >>> >>>An observation: ChessBase has an one program on one disc policy. Exception is >>>DJ8 with DJ8ZX and DJ8XY. The remaning engines included has always been >>>freewares. >>>Also, CB likes to release in the eng-format, only exception was Shredder up till >>>version 8, which also included the UCI version. >>>BTW, Toga is free, and I don't think anything would hinder CB in including it on >>>their discs (could be wrong here), except it might be an advertice for Fruit, >>>and it probably wouldn't be too good if it beats Fritz too often! >>> >>>I thinks it's great like is, Fruit being sold by Fruitchess and Toga/Gambit >>>Fruit being under "constant" developement!! Keeping up the competition :-))) >>> >>>Regards >>>Henrik >> >>As I said, why would people waste their money with Fruit 2.2.1 if TogaII v1.1 is >>as strong as it ? Give me a hint please > >For what its worth, I don't think Toga is as strong as Fruit. I admit they are >very close. I only test Blitz games these days and Toga II 1.1 after 300 games >is 6 Elo below Shredder 9 UCI and 39 Elo below Fruit 2.2.1. I have only played >Toga II 1.1 vs Shredder 9 UCI/Fritz 8/Junior 9 and Hiarcs 9 so far. It's a >strong engine but since it's based on another program and is basically a clone I >don't understand why it's even allowed by the original author. Even if it only >cost him one sale it is a mistake to allow it as a free engine. >Jim. The mistake was made earlier. After releasing Fruit2.1 with source there was nothing that could stop toga1.1 Uri
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