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Subject: Re: How Fast Do Your Programs Qe2!! ...Very Hard for Dedicated Units

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 19:27:33 11/27/05

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On November 27, 2005 at 22:11:49, James T. Walker wrote:

>On November 27, 2005 at 13:16:20, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On November 27, 2005 at 12:48:02, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On November 27, 2005 at 11:42:38, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 27, 2005 at 00:36:58, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This position is taken from a 10 min. blitz game I played less than two hours
>>>>>ago against a master strength player, he's White and overlooked the depth of my
>>>>>combination.
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]4q1k1/p2n1pbp/1p4p1/2pQ4/8/PN1P2P1/1PP2PKP/R1B1r3 b - - 0 19
>>>>>
>>>>>19..Qe2!! winning outright.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please give hardware used and program or programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Qe2 is a good move but I certainly would not resign immediately.  There is still
>>>>a lot of chess to be played.  My guess is that in a 10 minute game you were
>>>>looking less than 16 ply ahead and could not possibly compute all the
>>>>combinations to the actual win (ready to play perfect chess from then on).  Am I
>>>>wrong?  Is there a mate in 25 I'm missing?
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>Sarcasm..well no I didn't look at every move in every line with perfect vision
>>>but I knew I was winning and if the N is captured that I had mate. If White
>>>defended with 20.Nd2..Ne5! wins by force. 21.Qa8+..Bf8 and White is now in
>>>zugzwang. IE 22.h3..Qd1 23.Nf3(otherwise mate)..Nxf3 24.Qxf8+..Kxf8 25.Bh6+..Ke7
>>>26.Rxd1..Rxd1 27.Kxf3..Rb1-+. This is more clear than 22..Rxc1 and Queens remain
>>>on the board.
>>
>>
>>Excuse me, did you think this was a game between computers? It's a human vs
>>human game. I really don't think in plies:o)
>>
>>Terry
>
>Hello Terry,
>Yes I was being sarcastic.  Anyway you have to expect a little criticism after a
>self proclaimed brilliancy.  Also your claim of zugzwang is a little premature.
>You are hopeing for poor moves from your opponent.  While this is possible in a
>10 minute blitz game it's also the reason I would not resign after your Qe2
>move.  It probably wins a piece but I never resign in a blitz game when down
>only a piece.  After all it's blitz!
>No I did not think it was between computers but after all this is the COMPUTER
>CHESS CLUB.  Posting your game here is bound to bring it under scrutiny by
>computer chess lovers.  We routinely talk in plies around here.  I guess maybe
>you think in "half moves" ?
>Anyway back to the position.  Shredder 9 UCI wants to play Nd2 as the only
>saving move.  After your Ne5 which wins by force Shredder would play b4 followed
>by Bb2.  I think this still loses the piece but as I said I would play on anyway
>if it were me.  I'm stubborn that way.  I figure if I can blunder a piece away
>then so can my opponent unless he is much higher rated than me.
>So nice move and good game.  I'm sure I would have missed the Qe2 move.  I play
>too defensively and also lose many of my games on time since my brain doesn't
>work like it did when I was younger.
>Regards,
>Jim

Points well taken. My opponent didn't resign, he took the N!! and was mated:o))
So he didn't play the best move, but I didn't expect poor moves from him, he's
quite a strong player.
BTW I have a harder time with chess combos at fast times controls, as I'm
getting up there as well. My rival was nearly 20 years younger, and it's getting
tougher all the time..sigh.. Anyway, if I play an exclam and feel good about it
and my play, and it may give a computer a workout, I may post it here:)

Best,
 Terry



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