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Subject: Re: About Playing Strength

Author: Sherry Windsor

Date: 10:01:57 11/28/05

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On November 28, 2005 at 10:33:42, Sune Larsson wrote:

>On November 28, 2005 at 10:17:22, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On November 28, 2005 at 09:22:54, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>On November 28, 2005 at 09:01:53, Steve B wrote:
>>>
>>>>>if you're looking for someone to hang, you've got the wrong guy. There's room
>>>>>for everyone, and I'm certainly no saint either. Peace.
>>>>
>>>>and it should be noted that you are one of the strongest rated Fide members here
>>>>to grace these pages
>>>>
>>>>http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=2102250
>>>>
>>>>and i bet very few here even know that due largely in part to your modesty
>>>>i imagine that if other's  were that strong ,somehow,someway,they would manage
>>>>to mention it on every other post
>>>>
>>>>totally different from this Spleen character..oops..   i meant... Steen
>>>
>>>
>>> That's right - A. Spleen called himself a patzer in chess. But why this
>>> making fun of names?
>>
>>I agree one shouldn't, but as to why he brought those flames on himself, it no
>>doubt is his fault due to the quite cocky comments he made in his posts, such
>>as:
>>
>>----------------------------------
>>"more RAM than you would imagine"
>>
>>"Fruit 2.2.x is the easiest top engine to beat for a few years.
>>
>>Against F9, S9, my score (playing them under strictest conditions) is poorer
>>than 50%, but I am working these upwards.
>>
>>But against Fruit 2.2.x (trial version), my score is now almost 80%, which is
>>crushing.
>>
>>And I never use the non-chessic methods shown in your loss above.
>>
>>I win by squeezing it hard and not letting go and without allowing counterplay
>>(as best I can).  This technique does not work at all reliably against F9 and S9
>>because (as a "patzer", of course!) I am not perfect at squeezing hard without
>>letting go and banning counterplay."
>>----------------------------------
>>
>>Since I'm sure IMs and GMs aren't trying to beat the engines in a tactical
>>slugfest, the last paragraph quoted above suggests he plays more competently
>>than they, and at 3min blitz no less.
>>
>>BTW, I looked for the posts where he supposedly repeatedly calls himself a
>>patzer, and couldn't find it. At best he says "we are all patzers" at one point.
>>I may have missed it though, as I don't feel like reading every single one of
>>this guy's stuff.
>>
>>As to more inflammable material, suggesting he does NOT regard himself a patzer:
>>
>>----------------------------------
>>"the game is certainly no showcase for my abilities. So I cannot be again
>>accused by the trolls of boasting or whatever."
>>
>>(the quote may seem odd due to the disclaimer, but talking about one's
>>'abilities' is not an exercise in humility)
>>
>>"Below is the whole game, but please scroll down for some light illustrated
>>commentary, aimed at the 1500-rated player.  As every one of my chessic
>>_critics_ on this board have demonstrated no more understanding than that of a
>>1500-player (if anything, I am being a little too generous here)"
>>-----------------------------------
>>
>>In fact, the fellow is anything but humble. Just commenting.
>>
>>                                       Albert
>
>
> Humble or not - I had no problems with his language or attitude. In fact I
> smiled a bit when reading his posts. Furthermore I think he had some
> interesting points that seem to have vanished in the flames. F.e. the one
> about Fruit being more "friendly" or "passive" in games vs humans
> [i.e. Mr Steen] - than Fritz/Shredder (I think he mentioned those) - thus
> causing humans [i.e. Mr Steen] less problems in the games. It just might be
> worth investigating. Don't recall having seen so many serious games Fruit/Toga
> vs humans though.
>
> /S


  Great!, so as long as he supports your point of view he can be as arrogant,
pompous, rude and insulting as he wishes ?



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