Author: Sherry Windsor
Date: 10:17:29 11/28/05
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On November 27, 2005 at 11:50:32, Zappa wrote: >On November 27, 2005 at 01:43:49, enrico carrisco wrote: > >>On November 26, 2005 at 22:17:05, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>I agree with you except in one point. A.S. won all his arguments and nobody, I >>>repeat nobody could come close to him. Drexel lost his temper and insulted him >>>(nonsense!, you loudmouth!), others too, Dr Wael Daeb or some such sent A.S. >>>into psychiatric ambulance which was the usual idiocy (and that in CCC!) which >>>was thrown at this thinking individual. Stoneage! One of the darkest periods of >>>CCC. >> >> >>B.S. >> >>It's true that certain threads of A. Steen's proposed a clear point of view with >>solid ground but the vast amount of others were full of condescending remarks >>(and often insults) to well respected, long-term members of this forum. >> >>I agree that it is great of have members of this forum that do not subscribe to >>the "greater majority" thoughts and viewpoints -- but it is possible to argue >>one's point while giving respect to others. >> >>This individual (whoever he was and however intelligent he was) was clearly >>seeking attention and substantiation of his own importance and intellect -- even >>if it meant (and usually did) totally disrespecting others in the process. >>Couple such negativity and condescending remarks with the fallacy of 'always >>having to be right' and you have exactly the mess and upset we've seen in the >>forum the last few weeks... >> >>To me, such negativity does not outweigh what little positive that was present. >>So enough with the cries of "censorship", "CCC is back in the stoneages" and >>other remarks of "great loss" regarding A. Steen's departure. Those CCC members >>that are "thrill-seekers" that need drama and confrontation in their everyday >>lives can turn the television on (Jerry Springer, etc.) and enjoy. I, for one, >>remember the old days of chaos and abuse in rec.games.chess.computer -- if >>losing a few A. Steen's along the way is what it takes to keep CCC's atmosphere >>positive and useful, great. >> >>Even you, yourself, have undergone a bit of a "change of heart" since the >>rec.games.chess.computer days I speak of above. Aren't you happier now? ;) >> >>Regards, >> >>-elc. > >Since when is being condescending a crime worthy of flames and moderation? In >any case, I think you are greatly exaggerating how insulting he was and greatly >diminishing the contributions he made. There is a big difference between >"difficult to grasp for patzers like you" and "you fucking idiot". The first is >a polite jab, the second is just nasty. > >anthony I wonder how accomadating to steen you would be had he said he beats zappa 80 percent of the time.
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