Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 11:51:54 11/28/05
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On November 25, 2005 at 17:42:15, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 25, 2005 at 17:29:59, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On November 24, 2005 at 06:44:58, phili_ppe wrote: >> >>>On November 24, 2005 at 05:58:30, Henrik Dinesen wrote: >>> >>>>On November 24, 2005 at 04:03:25, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>>> >>>>>After ten games Fruit is leading with 4 wins 3 draws and 3 losses. I really >>>>>don't see too much difference between Fruit or Toga and will probably wait for >>>>>both to be included in the next update to Fritz 9 on DVD. >>>>> >>>>>Both programs are excellent and prevail against most of my prior programs >>>>>including Shredder 8...but not by much. >>>>> >>>>>Life is good, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>TJ >>>>> >>>>>PS I keep giving the hint at this site for Chessbase to make Fabien an offer he >>>>>can't refuse. I want him to profit from his art and refine his excellent >>>>>program. >>>> >>>>An observation: ChessBase has an one program on one disc policy. Exception is >>>>DJ8 with DJ8ZX and DJ8XY. The remaning engines included has always been >>>>freewares. >>>>Also, CB likes to release in the eng-format, only exception was Shredder up till >>>>version 8, which also included the UCI version. >>>>BTW, Toga is free, and I don't think anything would hinder CB in including it on >>>>their discs (could be wrong here), except it might be an advertice for Fruit, >>>>and it probably wouldn't be too good if it beats Fritz too often! >>>> >>>>I thinks it's great like is, Fruit being sold by Fruitchess and Toga/Gambit >>>>Fruit being under "constant" developement!! Keeping up the competition :-))) >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Henrik >>> >>>As I said, why would people waste their money with Fruit 2.2.1 if TogaII v1.1 is >>>as strong as it ? Give me a hint please >> >>For what its worth, I don't think Toga is as strong as Fruit. I admit they are >>very close. I only test Blitz games these days and Toga II 1.1 after 300 games >>is 6 Elo below Shredder 9 UCI and 39 Elo below Fruit 2.2.1. I have only played >>Toga II 1.1 vs Shredder 9 UCI/Fritz 8/Junior 9 and Hiarcs 9 so far. It's a >>strong engine but since it's based on another program and is basically a clone I >>don't understand why it's even allowed by the original author. Even if it only >>cost him one sale it is a mistake to allow it as a free engine. >>Jim. > >The mistake was made earlier. > >After releasing Fruit2.1 with source there was nothing that could stop toga1.1 Why is that a mistake? Clearly, with a GPL license, that is exactly what was intended.
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