Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 11:59:19 11/28/05
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On November 24, 2005 at 06:44:58, phili_ppe wrote: >On November 24, 2005 at 05:58:30, Henrik Dinesen wrote: > >>On November 24, 2005 at 04:03:25, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >> >>>After ten games Fruit is leading with 4 wins 3 draws and 3 losses. I really >>>don't see too much difference between Fruit or Toga and will probably wait for >>>both to be included in the next update to Fritz 9 on DVD. >>> >>>Both programs are excellent and prevail against most of my prior programs >>>including Shredder 8...but not by much. >>> >>>Life is good, >>> >>> >>>TJ >>> >>>PS I keep giving the hint at this site for Chessbase to make Fabien an offer he >>>can't refuse. I want him to profit from his art and refine his excellent >>>program. >> >>An observation: ChessBase has an one program on one disc policy. Exception is >>DJ8 with DJ8ZX and DJ8XY. The remaning engines included has always been >>freewares. >>Also, CB likes to release in the eng-format, only exception was Shredder up till >>version 8, which also included the UCI version. >>BTW, Toga is free, and I don't think anything would hinder CB in including it on >>their discs (could be wrong here), except it might be an advertice for Fruit, >>and it probably wouldn't be too good if it beats Fritz too often! >> >>I thinks it's great like is, Fruit being sold by Fruitchess and Toga/Gambit >>Fruit being under "constant" developement!! Keeping up the competition :-))) >> >>Regards >>Henrik > >As I said, why would people waste their money with Fruit 2.2.1 if TogaII v1.1 is >as strong as it ? Give me a hint please Fritz, CM, Gandalf, Junior, Shredder... All are arguably about the same strength as well (within 100 Elo or so). So why buy any of them? Probably because: 1. You like the features offered and which are absent in other programs 2. You want tablebase access to see perfect analysis in endgame 3. You want to support the authors (I bought several engines for this reason alone) 4. You are interested in having several (different) strong opinions about what the best move is. My opinion: I guess that within a year, Fruit will gain another 100 Elo points. If Fabien continues to receive support, we will see miraculous moves made that are truly works of art. If that is worth lunch money to you, then buy it. People who are not willing to spend pocket change for a chess engine or debate about it for hours are probably not going to buy one in any case.
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