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Subject: Re: Mate in 14

Author: chandler yergin

Date: 11:35:02 12/02/05

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On December 02, 2005 at 14:27:36, Rob Basham wrote:

>On December 02, 2005 at 14:22:54, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2005 at 12:21:55, F. Huber wrote:
>>
>>>On December 02, 2005 at 11:12:54, chandler yergin wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 02, 2005 at 10:42:16, Rob Basham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[D]3Q4/bp3pp1/6k1/8/7R/6p1/B2p1PP1/q1rn2K1 w - - 0 1
>>>>>
>>>>>This is the recent neat Mate in 19 problem...after 5 moves are played...
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Qd3+
>>>>>
>>>>>CM-9000 ann. mate in 14 in 39 seconds.....SKR
>>>>>
>>>>>P3_850
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob
>>>>
>>>>Try Mate in 11 in 00:02
>>>>New game
>>>>[D]3Q4/bp3pp1/6k1/8/7R/6p1/B2p1PP1/q1rn2K1 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>>
>>>>1.Qxd2 Nxf2+ 2.Qe1
>>>>  -+  (-6.24)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qxd2 Nxf2+ 2.Qd1 Nxd1+ 3.Rd4
>>>>  -+  (-16.91)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qxd2 Nxf2+ 2.Qd1 Nxd1+ 3.Rd4
>>>>  -+  (-16.91)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qh8 gxf2+ 2.Kf1 Qxa2
>>>>  -+  (-12.13)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qh8 Qxa2
>>>>  -+  (-10.84)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qh8 gxf2+ 2.Kf1 Qxa2
>>>>  -+  (-10.77)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd5 Nxf2#
>>>>  -+  (-8.59)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd5 Nxf2#
>>>>  -+  (-8.59)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
>>>>1.Bc4 Nxf2+
>>>>  -+  (-8.46)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>>1.Bc4 Nxf2+ 2.Bf1
>>>>  -+  (-8.46)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>>1.Bd5 Nxf2#
>>>>  -+  (-8.41)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>>1.Bd5 Nxf2#
>>>>  -+  (-8.41)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 2/2   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 3/3   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 4/4   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 5/5   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 7/7   00:00:00  1kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 8/8   00:00:00  2kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 9/9   00:00:00  4kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 10/10   00:00:00  6kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 11/11   00:00:00  14kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 12/12   00:00:00  26kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 13/13   00:00:00  41kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 14/14   00:00:00  75kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 15/15   00:00:01  153kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+
>>>>  +-  (#14)   Depth: 16/16   00:00:01  247kN
>>>>1.Qd3+ f5 2.Qxg3+ Kf6 3.Qd6+ Kg5 4.Rh5+ Kxh5 5.Qxd2
>>>>  +-  (#11)   Depth: 17/18   00:00:02  596kN
>>>>
>>>>(, MyTown 02.12.2005)
>>>
>>>And once again a wrong mate announcement by Shredder 8 - if I were you I would
>>>throw away this engine!
>>>
>>>BTW, how should a #19 become a #11 after 5 moves???
>>>
>>>Franz.
>>
>>Easy.. it sees it. It may not be the best line and the evaluation may change
>>after deeper search!
>>If you like, I'll let it run longer. But how did you like the speed at which
>>it found Mate in 14?
>>Hmmm?
>
>OK.....you win......that's pretty fast!
>But how did a mate in 14 become a "mate in 11"...?

It doesn't of course! Because it finds one line leading to Mate in 11, doesn't
mean it is the best line, & with each Ply search the PV changes.
It is Mate in 14.
OK?
Nothing wrong with the Search function.
 The Engine does what it's supposed to do.
>
>Something wrong somewhere...me thinks....:-)
>
>Rob



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