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Subject: Re: Naming Suspected Computer Cheats could be considered slanderous

Author: odell hall

Date: 23:41:31 03/23/99

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On March 24, 1999 at 02:15:59, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>Odell my friend, you seem to be missing the point.
>
>No one is defending this suspected cheat against what he did. We (as in me and
>others against you naming this person in this forum) are against you using this
>forum for your own personal crusade and revenge against this person that beat
>you.
>
>If he used a computer which when you look at the game shows that it is very
>likely that he did use a computer rather than his own brain, then sure this
>person using this game as an example could have cheated. But Odell that is not
>the point. The point is you can show us the games, you can tell us you played
>him on ICC, but what we are saying is that under no circumstances before ICC has
>booted this player should you name him.
>
>See Odell he is using ICC as his portal for cheating, then once ICC boots this
>person you can come on here and say that this person was cought cheating by ICC
>and that he beat you using unfair means. But until then this player is still a
>member of the chess server and until any cheating has been confirmed by ICC then
>you should keep you mouth shut.
>
>If you want to make a crusade to prove this person is cheating, hassle the
>admins of the chess server till they do something about it. Cause really posting
>who he is on here is really not going to do much for you and for him.
>
>Are you looking for sympathy because you got cheated out of a game of chess.
>Well I am sorry for you.
>
>I really think you are looking to prove that you deserve to beat this person and
>when you did not, you have to go on a mission to prove you are better than him
>and thus you are using and ABUSING this forum for your own means.


Michael

 You are right, I am using this forum for my own means, which is to prove my
suspicions about a cheater.  Why is this Wrong?  I am grateful that such a forum
exist with members who are very knowledgable and share my interest in computer
chess. Whatever it is discussing technical aspects of computer chess, or
cheaters on Icc this is a computer chess forum! As far as your allegations of
abuse, I wonder why I have heard nothing from a moderator?  I further challenge
you to produce in writing any evidence that I have violated the rules of CCC.
If you can not do this, then you should "keep your Mouth shut". I wonder where
you find the arrogance and the gall to tell , members in this forum what they
can or cannot discuss. For me Chess is not an occasion of Ego, Remeber it was
not I who played the suspected cheater anyway. It was my program, so my pride
could not have been hurt as you suggest. As I said in previous post, I brought
this question to this board original to confirm a suspicion, no more or less.
 I would not even neccessarily say that the cheating, has pissed me off.  I just
don't like the idea of someone with absolutely no right, or authority to tell me
what I can and cannot discuss.



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