Author: Zheng Zhixian
Date: 14:43:41 12/06/05
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On December 06, 2005 at 16:49:54, Chessfun wrote: >On December 06, 2005 at 16:45:57, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 06, 2005 at 16:25:20, Zheng Zhixian wrote: >> >>>On December 06, 2005 at 15:42:02, mike schoonover wrote: >>> >>>>hi frank, >>>>check your mail >>>>regards >>>>mike >>> >>>From readme >>> >>>"We ask that the beta releases not be circulated except in cases where special >>>permission was given, as it was for example to all of the members of the CEGT >>>test team. Those interested in becoming beta testers are asked to please contact >>>us directly to get a copy." >>> >>>My opinion is the 'special permission' to circulate was withdrawn after WBEC 24 >>>hour limit was up. So those sending the file to others now without explict >>>permission may be doing so against the wishes of the author. >>> >>>Maybe Vasik could comment on this? >> >>I do not think that the author is stupid not to understand the result of his >>actions. Well arguably, if an author decides to release his source code under GPL, he should be smart enough to realise that the result of his action is perhaps seeing people illegally clone his engine without crediting the author. But does that make the action itself legal? >>In case that he gives it not only to selected team of beta testers then the >>meaning is that evertbody who asks to get it is going to get it because >>everybody has a friend of friend of friend who downloaded it. Not sure what you mean Uri. If I buy Shredder 10, does that mean the author expects me to give it to a friend of a friend of a friend? My interpretition was that whoever had the beta could not circulate it except if it was given to someone in the group whom there was special permission given. An example of this would be the special permission the CEGT group of testers. The second special permission given was to people who knew about WBEC hosting of the file during the 24 hours it was on. In all other cases, you cannot circulate. My impression was that the 24 hour offer was aimed at targetting a group solely defined as 'hard core computer chess fans' and rather than handle it on a case by case base (300 emails addresses), the way he did that was to define the term as somone who reads CCC at least once in 24 hours. So in effect just like the special permissions given to all CEGT tesers, there was a special permission given to anyone who knew about it (most from CCC, some from friends) and downloaded it within those 24 hours. In all other events, the readme says that if anyone else wants to test the engine, he should contact Vasik directly. A very generous offer, since as you point out in earlier threads this means a lot of other people who wouldn't usually be definied as hard core cc people would know about it through friends. And some unlucky ones would miss out. >>People who downloaded it did not have to agree to conditions not to send it to >>other people before downloading it so I see nothing illegal with it. That's a different point, and you may be right, I don't know. After all Vasik seems eager to let the chess world know about his engine. >Nothing illegal maybe but look at these messages especially these titles IMO >it's nothing more than Spam. How many over the coming days, weeks must we see? It seems kind of strange if such an action wasn't illegal. If so why not just put it up on a website and save all the borther? In a way it's kind of like the gmails invite scheme, but where everyone had infinite invites (or at least too many invites to know what to do with them). Of course these messages pleading for chess engines will normally appear even if there wasn't this strange open 24 beta test (E.g Where can I get super strong engine X which betatester user showed off?), but the fact that it used to be available for free, will cause a bigger onslaught of such posts. >Sarah.
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