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Subject: Re: WAIT A SECOND - just what is going on here?

Author: Greg Simpson

Date: 18:01:53 12/07/05

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On December 07, 2005 at 17:00:54, Andreas Guettinger wrote:

>On December 07, 2005 at 16:51:10, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>On December 07, 2005 at 16:39:16, Ed Murak wrote:
>>
>>>At http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?467829 you collated these
>>>results -
>>>
>>>...
>>>124651 = AMD Opteron 275, 2.2ghz, 32 bit (WIN x64)
>>>124651 = Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz 32 bit
>>>...
>>>110801 = Pentium-M 2.0GHz 32 bit
>>>110801 = Pentium 4, 3.6 ghz,560 Prescott, 32 bit (WIN/XP)
>>>110801 = Athlon 64 3200+ 2GHz 32 bit
>>>...
>>>
>>>Does it not seem a little strange that the precisely, exactly same "nps" is
>>>reported for widely-differing CPUs (Athlon and Pentium 4 and Pentium M, say)?
>>>
>>>In just 17 results, 3+2=5 exact collisions with such big numbers involved is
>>>beyond a coincidence.
>>>
>>>Is there some granularity in the test that we don't know about?  If not, is
>>>"nps" reported always inversely proportional to "time" reported, for the same
>>>initial conditions and 3988843 node count? If not, would "time" be a better
>>>measure?
>>>
>>>I
>>
>>It is possible time IS a better measure, but we had to collect the results as-is
>>to figure this out. :)
>>
>>It looks like it is just rounding to the nearest second. This would be ok for
>>longer runs (maybe 200 seconds?), but my PC took just over 15 seconds. This is a
>>bit of a difference I think, and would like to see more accurate results. Only
>>problem would be having everyone now re-run it and calculate the NPS by hand
>>from the time in ms and total node count.
>
>Now that you mention it, I get a diffrent value when I calculate form hand:
>info depth 14 time 32111 nodes 3988843 nps 128672
>info time 32113 nodes 3988843 nps 128672
>
>form hand:3988843/32.113 = 124212 nps ?
>
>- andy
>
>Athlon64 3400+ 2.4Ghz 512kb L2 cache

Oddly enough the computer calculation seems to have used exactly 31 seconds, not
32.



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