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Subject: Proven?

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 13:42:42 03/24/99

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On March 24, 1999 at 16:21:03, Mike CastaƱuela wrote:


>I support you.
>I have followed this discussion and I do not see sense
>to as much noise by anything.
>At the end facts always count, and you only have given an nickname,
>no name, of someone that, of another way, anyone would be
>thanked for to know that, to enter the club, he is, of sure,
>a cheater (facts proven courtesy of Paulo).

Proven?

How so?

I do not dispute Paulo's findings, but if you ask anyone who has checked
computer games before, they will tell you that:

1) You should base it off of more than one game.
2) You should check for yourself and not take someone else's word.
3) You should use the times as indicators. The times as posted could be a human,
or could be a computer (since it was a G10+18 game as opposed to G5).

Only one person has posted that he has checked the games with Fritz. But there
are some confusing things to this:

If Paulo played the game as stated (before the times for CM4000 and the other
player were announced), then how much time did Paulo wait before entering in his
moves? If he took very little time, then his Fritz would have had less time to
ponder. So how is it that even the short duration moves were the same? This is a
little confusing. How is it that Fritz makes identical moves on Paulo's computer
and also on an unknown system? Usually, even the same program will make some
different moves if it has different parameters (such as running on a different
machine). 100% is strange to me. However, I have heard that programs will play
the same moves, but I was under the impression that conditions would have to be
similar. So if I am way off base here, please, Robert or Bruce, let me know.

What if a second person checked Fritz and came back with a 60% match. What would
that say? Anything?

What Paulo did was supply supporting data for Odell's suspicion. He did not
prove anything.

KarinsDad



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