Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 10:50:00 12/09/05
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On December 09, 2005 at 10:56:33, William Penn wrote: >On December 09, 2005 at 02:33:02, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>since I have the UCI version I let it run in the Shredder 9 classic interface >>with Shredder9.bkt and it does very very well. I suggest this GUI and book to >>get the best of it. >> >>Sandro William, > >I'm also using the Shredder 9.1 Classic GUI with Rybka 1.0 Beta and it works >fine, as does Fruit 2.2.1, Toga II 1.1a, and other UCI engines. Alas they are >getting most of the use now and the Shredder 9.1 UCI engine is getting a much >deserved rest, only for occasional consultation!? Yes, this GUI has no bugs and works very well...everybody knows it! > >My feeling at this point is that Rybka plays the openings fairly well even >without a book, but any engine needs a little help with the first few moves. It >might only need a book with 5 moves in each line. I do not agree. I agree that that engine is good without book too, but is better a book with lines with 32 plies as average than only 10. That is added chess knowledge, somehow like the chess knowledge which is in the engine. > >I enjoyed, respected, and still use your Shredder opening book that came with >the Shredder 8 CD and the Fritz GUI. It worked fine in the Fritz GUI. I could >clearly see what you recommended in each case. The recommended moves were in >green and included the comment symbols such as "!" and "?". The bad moves were >in red. It was easy to use and consult. Well, the system in this GUI is similar, but I find it easier: a moves are the best (!!) b moves second choice (!) c moves an interesting alternative (!?) d moves playable e moves risky (?!) f moves bad ones (?) g moves very bad ones (??) you can change these settings very easily and all the time; even during a game! > >However I have never learned how to access and consult that same kind of useful >information with your opening book that comes with the Shredder 9 UCI Classic >package. I hope now you know more...see above. >The opening book features of that GUI are sadly lacking when compared >with the Fritz GUI. I do not agree. I think you got to use the CB interface and are looking for something similar, but I think the SC interface is better. >So I always keep the Fritz8 GUI available, so I can manage >my many opening books in .ctg format - the best opening book format I've ever >found. Perhaps I'm overlooking something, but I played around with it for quite >awhile when I first bought the Shredder Classic GUI, and it just isn't suitable >for serious opening books in my opinion. Again I do not agree...you have a lot of features to create and import books. >At least it can't handle my big opening >books which have over 3 million chess games. That's the main weakness of that >GUI, which is excellent in most other regards. If you have created in CB format than it is not so easy, but this is merely because CB do not want it. >WP Sandro
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