Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 06:31:26 12/10/05
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On December 10, 2005 at 08:47:36, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On December 10, 2005 at 07:52:56, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On December 10, 2005 at 07:16:37, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On December 10, 2005 at 07:13:37, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On December 10, 2005 at 07:10:50, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 10, 2005 at 07:06:05, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>>sorry but I do not get it....if it has an optimized book why is only second? >>>>>> >>>>>>The book should clearly help to get no. 1...no other score would be acceptable. >>>>> >>>>>01Toga II 1.1a i 13.5/19 = 71% >>>>>02 Rybka 1.0 10.5/14 = 75% >>>>>05 Fruit 2.2.1 i 10.0/12 = 83% >>>>> >>>>> So yes, it is second but not after Toga but after Fruit.....But we really >>>>>should wait for all the engines play the same amount of games and against all >>>>>other..... >>>> >>>>OK, but a book optimized with only 3 moves? >>>> >>>>Is this serious? >>>> >>> Rybka released before some days. I guess Dr.Wael didn't start creating it the >>>1st day of its release. So he had only 2-4 days to do it and since he doen't >>>have any profit from it i don't think he worked full time. So if he covers 6 >>>plies i find it really good........ >> >>?????????????? >> >>The world is nice because there are so many different ways to think. >> > > I know, i know, 6 plies mean absolutely nothing about a book and in any case >can be called optimized, but i was refering to the job needed of creating _by >hand_ a 6-ply book. If you do this in 4-5 days it's a good try..... > > To start being characterized as an optimized book, i think anyone should spend >around at least a month of full analysing with Rybka but also other engines (for >comparing purposes). Also i think the book should start being built, by a small >starting sample book that should consist of at least 10 ply with the major >opening variations and then adding to it variations Rybka understands........ > Of course you know the process much better than me and you can always correct >me if i say anything stupid, but i say again that i was not refering to the book >when i said "i find it really good" but to the job made manually..... Well, I understand what you say, but with today's tools it is not necessary to do all things manually anymore. I had to do it 28 years ago... I believe 20 plies is the very minimum for a book. Just my opinion. Sandro
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