Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 06:43:46 12/10/05
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On December 10, 2005 at 08:53:22, Günther Simon wrote: >On December 10, 2005 at 07:52:56, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On December 10, 2005 at 07:16:37, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On December 10, 2005 at 07:13:37, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On December 10, 2005 at 07:10:50, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 10, 2005 at 07:06:05, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>>sorry but I do not get it....if it has an optimized book why is only second? >>>>>> >>>>>>The book should clearly help to get no. 1...no other score would be acceptable. >>>>> >>>>>01Toga II 1.1a i 13.5/19 = 71% >>>>>02 Rybka 1.0 10.5/14 = 75% >>>>>05 Fruit 2.2.1 i 10.0/12 = 83% >>>>> >>>>> So yes, it is second but not after Toga but after Fruit.....But we really >>>>>should wait for all the engines play the same amount of games and against all >>>>>other..... >>>> >>>>OK, but a book optimized with only 3 moves? >>>> >>>>Is this serious? >>>> >>> Rybka released before some days. I guess Dr.Wael didn't start creating it the >>>1st day of its release. So he had only 2-4 days to do it and since he doen't >>>have any profit from it i don't think he worked full time. So if he covers 6 >>>plies i find it really good........ >> >>?????????????? >> >>The world is nice because there are so many different ways to think. >> >>Sandro > >Hello Sandro, Hi Guenther, > >I think it is a bit unfair to generalize that much, just because you >see one line in which the book was out after ply 6. OK, here I agree with you...I shall apology... >Sometimes it isn't needed to have every side line in, especially >when considering he is no professional book cooker. >(This doesn't mean I would call 4.cxd5 a seldom side line here) >In the original example I can easily show you fairly ok moves, after >which even your S9 book would be out too with Black after ply 6. >E.g. 4.a3 and 4.g3 are surely no bad moves, but your book doesn't >cover them. (after 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Bf5 3.c4 e6) OK, but this line (2...Bf5) is with f so is not planned to be played with black and this explain why it is not so covered. >Just for the record and for summarizing, we don't know other lines >at all from this book and criticising it after seeing only one >(not that frequent line) too short line is a bit hasty and unfair. I admit I have been a little unfair...OK? > >Otherwise keep up your good work with Shredder books! :) Thank you. >And as I am already here with you, I have a burning question. >I heard of rumours that it is finally planned in the future >to allow Shredder using its native Shredder book (from native >Shredder UCI version) also outside its own GUI, but in users >choice GUIs? Is there some truth in those rumours? I do not know it. I think Stefan will do it, but I think it is not available yet. > >Best regards, >Guenther >(Customer of native Shredder 9) Best regards, Sandro
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