Author: Daniel Mehrmannn
Date: 00:44:08 12/12/05
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On December 12, 2005 at 03:23:58, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 12, 2005 at 02:55:58, Gerd Isenberg wrote: > >>On December 12, 2005 at 02:45:21, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote: >> >>>On December 12, 2005 at 02:31:26, Gerd Isenberg wrote: >>> >>>>On December 11, 2005 at 20:59:08, Daniel Mehrmannn wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hello, >>>>> >>>>>I was long thinking if i really should post that and some people giving me >>>>>warnings >>>>>to not do that, but i think i must do that to feel better. >>>> >>>>hmm... i don't buy that Daniel. I don'i understand you reasoning - as an >>>>ex-member of the Greif team aka Nimzo clone. If you search for Vasik's post here >>>>in the past it is rather obvious that Rybka is a very own and original program. >>>>Also due to the rating boost, bitboards and file size Rybka does not look like a >>>>Fruit-clone. >>>> >>>>Of course he, as well as other commercial and amatuer authors had a look into >>>>fruit sources. Copying ideas is not cloning. >>>> >>>>Gerd >>> >>>Hello Gerd, >>> >>>i think you know that i had nothing to do with the greif sources or program. I >>>was tester and book author and since this days i have no contact to Michael. >>> >> >>You told that story... >> >>>Again, i don't say Rybka is a clone. >> >>But you claim suspicions in a public forum for no reason as a concurrent >>programmer. Vas is ready to make a commercial business with Rybka. >>Can you imagine how much damage your post may wreak, to Vas's future business? >> >>Gerd > >I do not think that his post is going to cause demage to Vas's future. >some similiarity to fruit is natural and I think that there is some similiarity >between every 2 good chess programs. > >I also use mobility evaluation in Movei and today it is based only on the number >of legal moves. > >What Daniel suggested means that changing it to have different weight for every >piece in case that I decide in the future to do Movei commercial is not allowed >because this idea is taken from fruit. > >Uri Uri, let me explain what i mean and i hope my english is good enought that you understand it. Copying ideas, including fruit, is no cloning and okay! Btw i do this too. I think it depends how much you use from other ideas and how it works with your own ideas. If you can see that a program shows the same moves in his pv's in so many position and depths, ignore the order, must be something wrong. I mean position where is no clear best move and no captures or check or other special stuff. I hope you understand now what i want to say. Best, Daniel
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