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Subject: Re: Rybka - How much Fruit is inside ?

Author: G√ľnther Simon

Date: 12:09:25 12/12/05

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On December 12, 2005 at 14:17:21, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On December 12, 2005 at 05:43:57, Chan Rasjid wrote:

<part 1>

>>I left CCC for a few months(6) and came back finding Vasik finally released his
>>first beta after many many years of chess programming.
>>Great fun from the appereance of Rybka! Time to clone-guess and to test one's
>>Sherlock-Home skill in unravelling the mystery "Why is Rybka so strong"
>>I can never understand Daniel's post and the details even if I wanted to - meant
>>for the top 1% of chess programmers.

<part 2>

>> My raw take is that it is a clone.
>>Definitely a clone - how else can a program reach 2800 as a first release. From
>>all his CCC posts through the years, the truely discernimg experts (not
>>necessarily you) among us know he could not come out with anything original or
>>creative and he often mistake fail soft with hard,etc...etc.. ask him a basic
>>question about recursive null-move and he would have himself exposed as a fraud
>>and then you don't need to search too much of a proof. Just search the archives
>>for all his silly postings! Do you then need any proof.
>>Still getting solid evidence is great fun.
>>Hope someone can prove how sharp my instinct is.
>>No special regards for anyone or ill-will.
>I am very sure it is not a clone.
>Lots of amazingly strong engines come out of the blue.
>For example:
>In the case of Fruit, everyone could look for themselves and see:
>Nothing but lots of old good ideas and new fresh ideas and no cut and paste from
>somebody else at all.
>Fabien's code is also an example not only of how to write a chess program but
>how to program period.
>Anyway, I think it is not a good thing to make statements that sound like
>accusations with no evidence whatsoever.

Hi Dann,

I am not 100% sure, but I read the 2nd part of the post as
pure irony, especially as it is in contradiction with part 1,
at least IMHO.


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