Author: Albert Silver
Date: 17:16:06 12/12/05
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>>>>>>On December 12, 2005 at 18:29:26, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>CEGT Blitz Rating List updated: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>BLITZ: >>>>>>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>8 New engines added: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Rybka 1.0 Beta 64-bit >>>>>>>Chess Tiger 2004 Normal >>>>>> >>>>>>It seems that chess tiger 2004 normal played 120 games out of 520 games against >>>>>>ktulu7.1 >>>>>> >>>>>>I think that when one engine play so many games against single opponent the >>>>>>rating may be misleading because it is possible that one program has good result >>>>>>against specific opponent. >>>>>> >>>>>>I suggest that you reduce the number of all games between 2 opponents to 30 >>>>>>games for rating calculation and it means that tiger2004 got 14.75 out of 30 >>>>>>against ktulu7.1 and not 59 out of 120 against it because you should not let one >>>>>>player to decide about the rating list because by this idea if you play 1000 >>>>>>games between Fritz9 and TogaII1.0 and Fritz9 scores less than 45% you can tell >>>>>>fritz9 to go down in the list and togaII1.0 to fight for the first place. >>>>>> >>>>>>Of course if there is data about more games I do not say not to use it but you >>>>>>should use it only to get better estimate for the result in 30 games. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Tiger also played only against 6 opponents so I think that for calculation you >>>>>>should assume that it played 180 games by reducing the number of games of it >>>>>>against every opponent to 30 and 180<300. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I don't agree. Testing of Chess Tiger 2004 Normal is limted in that only a >>>>>couple of CEGT testers have it. It was agreed to run 80 games per engine match >>>>>however there was a mistake regarding Ktulu 7.1. >>>>> >>>>>Testing of Chess Tiger 2004 Normal is also limited in that it only runs in the >>>>>Chess Partner interface and therefore the variety of engines to play against >>>>>isn't so great. >>>>> >>>>>Further the method of testing within Chess Partner don't allow easy use of match >>>>>play gauntlets as Chessbase GUI's do. >>>>> >>>>>Last assuming it will end up playing some 1500 games ultimately it's rating may >>>>>get a bit skewed at the beginning. >>>>> >>>>>Sarah. >>>> >>>>What are the openings settings? Do they use a specific set of opening positions >>>>à la Nunn, or do they use their own books? If so, what books do the bookless >>>>engines use? >>>> >>>> Albert >>> >>> >>>All use generic books in the case of Chess Tiger 2004 Normal I believe they were >>>tested using the Harry Schnapp testsuite. >>> >>>Sarah. >> >>What is the HS testsuite? Where can I find it? >> > >The test suite was made available at CEGT about a month ago. I don't know where >it can be downloaded from but you could contact Heinz and ask him to contact >Harry or for Harry's email. > >http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ >http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/conditions.htm > >Sarah. That's cool, but I managed to find it. http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lefouduroi/club/download.htm Thanks anyhow. :-) Albert
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