Author: Micheal Cummings
Date: 04:50:11 03/26/99
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Hi there Sarah First off the game that Odell posted gives a more than likely view that the person playing the game used the Fritz chess engine. But that is not what I and some others are worried about. What we are making such a big noise over is the fact that Odell wants to gives names or handles and to judge this person before any chess server has the chance to boot him off, it is their server this person might be cheating on, and their right to call him a cheater. If Odell came on here and said that this person had been booted by ICC and that here was the game and said that it looks like he cheated Odell's for a win, then I would not have a problem. Because the right people would have judged him a cheat and thus Odell could then name this person, cause the server would have made that decision, which is their right too. But I think Odell or no one for that matter has no right to name this person in public, before the relevant people have time to deal with him (namely the chess server admins). He can post all the games he wants about peope he played against that he suspects cheat on him. Just as long as he does not name who they are. Unless these people have been proved cheats by the relevant people. (not Odell, unless Odell played this person one on one in person, or on his own chess server, then he would be the one to make that decision and thus any repercusions that might follow for getting it wrong) How do we know that ICC forgot to add the (c) to his handle. I mean just say he named a GM handle, even though it is a handle most people would know who it is. I know people from CCC's handle on ICC. Does that mean a handle makes it safe for him to name names, when for at least some, we know who he is talking about. This forum should not be a place for speculation and innuendo or rumours. Even with proof I would not name someone as a cheat. I would take it to the relevant authorities and let them deal with it. It is just a shame that Odell and some others on here feel as though they can be the Judge, Jury and executioner. We have System in place on chess servers to deal with these situations as we do in life with courts. We should leave it up to the right people and when the judgement has been made then we can comment. but Odell wants to give his judgement, no matter how strong or weak it is, and to condem this person befre he has a chance to reply. I would like to say that when someone in life commits an obvious crime, they are still put on trial and given a chance to defend themselves. Odell does not want to follow this system. He wants to give his proof to the public, and let them decide for themselves who is right or wrong. without having all the facts. At least the server admins would at least ask this person why this situation seems to show that a chess program was used, and at least give the person the chance to explain. I just think what Odell did was wrong, and he talks about people having a narrow mind, from what I can see, all he is seeing is black and white.
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