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Subject: Re: endgame position, possible win left out?

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 05:52:35 03/26/99

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On March 26, 1999 at 08:01:24, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>>>>8/p5pp/P7/4KP2/2k5/8/7P/8 w - - id Prog X - Prog Y; bm h2h4;
>>>>h3 also wins but this is a good position to test computers to see if they avoid
>>>>Kd6 and choose instead h4 or h3.
>>>
>>>It's often difficult to give only one *best* move for a certain position.
>>>While I agree that h4 wins Ke6 instead of h4 should be considered too.
>>>On a 2xPPro 232 MHz system crafty16.6 finds h4 at ply 12 within 9 sec whith
>>>a score of 2.86. Crafty fails high within 10 sec and after 24 sec it returns a
>>>score of 7.1 at ply 13. However, after 134 sec crafty fails high at ply 16 with
>>>Ke6! At ply 19 the score is 16.6 and at ply 20 crafty fails high again. IMHO
>>>Ke6! is even easier to see from a human perspective.
>>>B. Bauer
>>
>>Can you give me the line please. At the moment I have only draw with Kd6 and
>>Ke6: 44.Ke6 Kd4 45.Kc6 Ke5 46.Kb7 Kd6 with 47.Kxa7 Kc7 draw. Same motive with
>>44.Kd6. Another idea 44.Ke6 Kd4 45.Kf7 Ke5 46.Kxg7 Kxf5 47.Kxh7 Kg4 48.Kg6 Kh3
>>49.Kf5 Kxh2 50.Ke5 Kg3 51.Kd6 Kf4 52.Kc7 Ke5 53.Kb7 Kd6 and so on.
>
>Here is the output from crafty:
>
>              19->  15:10  16.60   1. Ke6 Kb5 2. Kf7 Kc4 3. h4 Kd4 4.
>                                   h5 Ke5 5. Kxg7 Kf4 6. f6 Kg5 7. f7
>                                   h6 8. f8=Q <HT>

5.h6 does also work.

>The move h4 follows two moves later.
>Hope that helps.

Not really. Of course this is a winning line but already the 1st black move is
senseless. 1.Ke6 Kb5??? Try to win this with Crafty after 1...Kd4. My lines and
ideas are written above.

>Kind regards
>B. Bauer



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