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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 20:14:10 12/13/05

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On December 13, 2005 at 23:07:39, Sherry Windsor wrote:

>On December 13, 2005 at 23:01:12, Andrew Walker wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 2005 at 22:43:23, Sherry Windsor wrote:
>>
>>>On December 13, 2005 at 22:39:12, Horst Biewald wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is Hiarcs 10 a download or does it come on a DVD?  Thanks!
>>>
>>>I think Rybka would be a far better Choice. If you are wanting the Best Possible
>>>play and analysis.
>>
>>a) Any chance of actually answering this person's question?
>>b) Any chance of actually providing evidence of your assertions, or just more
>>hollow waffle? For example, Rybka at present is poor in the endgame, Hiarcs is
>>strong and
>>has table base support. Saying "far better" is an insult to the many years of
>>hard
>>work Mark has put into Hiarcs.
>>c) Do you even own Hiarcs 10?
>>
>>To answer Horst, Hiarcs 10 comes on DVD and I'm fairly sure isn't downloadable.
>>Andrew
>
>
>
>  Yes i gave up on hiarcs after Version 8.  I thought 7 good in it's day. But
>the truth is Hiarcs has long since Been Surpassed , it's not even a question of
>Debate as everyone who is honest knows this. As to Rykba even with it's endgame
>holes it is beating everything in sight. You can't argue with Success, you can
>say anything you want about it's endgame, that still doesn't change the fact
>that it is beating all top programs.


http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/bff-liste.htm

The x on top is a beta of a commercial program.  It happens to be above Rybka.
Is it Hiarcs? Shredder? Junior? Zappa? Fruit?  We don't know but we do know
something is stronger than Rybka.  I would not count Hiarcs or any other top
engine out just because of one little fish coming along.

Ryan



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