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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 20:26:52 12/13/05

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On December 13, 2005 at 23:14:10, Ryan B. wrote:

>On December 13, 2005 at 23:07:39, Sherry Windsor wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 2005 at 23:01:12, Andrew Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On December 13, 2005 at 22:43:23, Sherry Windsor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 13, 2005 at 22:39:12, Horst Biewald wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Is Hiarcs 10 a download or does it come on a DVD?  Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>I think Rybka would be a far better Choice. If you are wanting the Best Possible
>>>>play and analysis.
>>>
>>>a) Any chance of actually answering this person's question?
>>>b) Any chance of actually providing evidence of your assertions, or just more
>>>hollow waffle? For example, Rybka at present is poor in the endgame, Hiarcs is
>>>strong and
>>>has table base support. Saying "far better" is an insult to the many years of
>>>hard
>>>work Mark has put into Hiarcs.
>>>c) Do you even own Hiarcs 10?
>>>
>>>To answer Horst, Hiarcs 10 comes on DVD and I'm fairly sure isn't downloadable.
>>>Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>  Yes i gave up on hiarcs after Version 8.  I thought 7 good in it's day. But
>>the truth is Hiarcs has long since Been Surpassed , it's not even a question of
>>Debate as everyone who is honest knows this. As to Rykba even with it's endgame
>>holes it is beating everything in sight. You can't argue with Success, you can
>>say anything you want about it's endgame, that still doesn't change the fact
>>that it is beating all top programs.
>
>
>http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/bff-liste.htm
>
>The x on top is a beta of a commercial program.  It happens to be above Rybka.
>Is it Hiarcs? Shredder? Junior? Zappa? Fruit?  We don't know but we do know
>something is stronger than Rybka.  I would not count Hiarcs or any other top
>engine out just because of one little fish coming along.
>
>Ryan

We do not know that something is stronger than Rybka.
Not enough games to know and the comparison is only with the
32 bit version of rybka.

Uri



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