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Subject: Re: Hiarcs 10 in ECMGCP

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 07:03:46 12/15/05

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On December 15, 2005 at 09:34:33, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On December 15, 2005 at 06:58:55, Robert Allgeuer wrote:
>
>>Hi Tord,
>>What is ECMGCP? Is it a tactical or a positional test-suite?
>
>It's purely tactical.  It's a set of combinations taken from a book
>called "Encyclopaedia of Chess Middlegames", hence the letters "ECM".
>Gian-Carlo Pascutto has analysed the positions and removed the most
>obvious incorrect solutions, hence the letters "GCP".
>
>ECMGCP is more or less the standard "quick and dirty" tactical test
>suite for computer programs today.  It is used in basically the same
>way the WAC test suite was used a few years ago.  WAC is too easy
>on today's hardware; most of the ECMGCP positions are slightly harder.
>
>>Can you please post the positions.
>
>Dieter posted the link.
>
>>PS.: So this also means that new Glaurung has a very high score in ECMGCP as
>>well ...
>
>Previous versions scored well, too.  This is a bit strange, and it actually
>worries me a bit.  Glaurung is usually very good at finding the flashy,
>sacrifical tactics which are usually found in books and magazines (the type
>you will find in the ECMGCP suite).  It is horribly bad at spotting the more
>mundane tactics which decide typical computer vs computer games.  There
>seems to be some sort of serious imbalance in my search, and I suspect that
>it hurts the playing strength considerably.  I don't understand the reason
>for the problem.  Glaurung does not use any extensions except the standard
>ones (minus the recapture extension, which never worked for me), and only
>checks are extended by a full ply.
>
>Tord


hm, perhaps your pruning is too safe. It does not prune away the fancy looking
but rare tactical flashes in ECMGCP. ;-)

Joachim



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