Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 10:58:13 12/16/05
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Another E-Mail I recieved today.
Chandler is impossible, no amout of obvious facts will penetrate that "Nuetron
Skull" of his!
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In a message dated 12/16/2005 1:24:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
nomad@easyfocus.com writes:
You can covert it. The proof you wanted is there.
No need, you sent me 'funny' games. Uri will not accept games with time
increments as a test of Engine strength, nor will I.
Tournaments are played at Standard Time Controls. If Rybka is ever
entered into one it will have to abide by that also.
Standard Time Control & pgn notation as below.
(Where Shredder kicks Butt again)
[Event "Shootout (Rybka1Beta32-bit, 5'/40+5'/40"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black Shredder8]
[Result "0-1"]
[Annotator "Shredder 8"]
[PlyCount "166"]
1. Nc3 d5 2. Nf3 {[%eval 4,11] [%emt 0:00:06]} d4 {
(Nc6) [%eval 0,11] [%emt 0:00:09]} 3. Nb5 {[%eval 6,11] [%emt 0:00:08]} c5 {
[%eval 8,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} 4. g3 {[%eval 5,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Nc6 {
[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} 5. Bg2 {[%eval 2,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} g6 {
[%eval 1,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} 6. O-O {[%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:00:21]} Nf6 {
[%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:00:16]} 7. d3 {[%eval 1,12] [%emt 0:00:36]} Bg7 {
[%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} 8. Bf4 {[%eval 1,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nd5 {
[%eval -6,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} 9. Bd2 {[%eval -9,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} a6 {
[%eval -6,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} 10. c4 {[%eval -6,12] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nf6 {
[%eval -7,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} 11. Na3 {[%eval -7,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} O-O {
[%eval -8,12] [%emt 0:00:23]} 12. Qb3 {[%eval -6,12] [%emt 0:00:35]} e5 {
[%eval -8,10] [%emt 0:00:07]} 13. Nc2 {[%eval -6,11] [%emt 0:00:16]} h6 {
(Qe7) [%eval -8,11] [%emt 0:00:17]} 14. e4 {[%eval -8,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} Qe7 {
[%eval -6,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} 15. a4 {[%eval -7,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} Bg4 {
(Rd8) [%eval -7,10] [%emt 0:00:11]} 16. a5 {[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rab8
{[%eval -6,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} 17. Rab1 {[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} Rfd8 {
[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:07]} 18. Rfe1 {[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} Be6 {
(Bd7) [%eval -6,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} 19. Qa4 {(Rf1) [%eval -4,10] [%emt 0:00:03]
} Bd7 {[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} 20. Qb3 {
(Red1) [%eval -5,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} Re8 {[%eval -4,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} 21. Re2 {
[%eval -4,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} Be6 {[%eval -5,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} 22. Ree1 {
[%eval -6,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} Rec8 {[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:07]} 23. Red1 {
(Nh4) [%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} Nd7 {[%eval -7,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} 24. Qa4
{[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} b5 {(Qf6) [%eval -4,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 25. axb6
{[%eval -5,10] [%emt 0:00:02]} a5 {[%eval -6,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 26. Re1 {
(b3) [%eval -6,10] [%emt 0:00:09]} Rxb6 {[%eval -7,8] [%emt 0:00:01]} 27. b3 {
[%eval -8,9] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nf6 {(Bg4) [%eval -9,9] [%emt 0:00:06]} 28. Qa3 {
[%eval -11,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} Qb7 {(Qd6) [%eval -30,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} 29. Rb2
{[%eval -29,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rb8 {[%eval -30,11] [%emt 0:00:06]} 30. Reb1 {
[%eval -29,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} a4 {[%eval -29,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} 31. Na1 {
[%eval -33,11] [%emt 0:00:16]} Bf8 {[%eval -33,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 32. Bc1 {
(Bf1) [%eval -36,10] [%emt 0:00:10]} axb3 {[%eval -24,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 33.
Rxb3 {[%eval -20,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} Rxb3 {[%eval -34,11] [%emt 0:00:03]} 34.
Rxb3 {[%eval -32,11] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nb4 {[%eval -25,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} 35.
Bd2 {[%eval -25,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} Bd6 {[%eval -13,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} 36. Qc1
{[%eval -13,11] [%emt 0:00:02]} h5 {[%eval -17,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} 37. Nc2 {
[%eval -13,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qe7 {[%eval -17,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} 38. Bg5 {
[%eval -17,9] [%emt 0:00:01]} Bd7 {[%eval -16,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 39. Ra3 {
[%eval -16,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nc6 {[%eval -15,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 40. Qe1 {
(Ra1) [%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg7 {(Bc7) [%eval -21,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 41.
Qc1 {[%eval -20,10] [%emt 0:00:15]} Qd8 {(Bc7) [%eval -18,10] [%emt 0:00:10]}
42. Ra1 {[%eval -19,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} Be7 {[%eval -23,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 43.
Bh6+ {[%eval -25,11] [%emt 0:00:16]} Kg8 {[%eval -23,11] [%emt 0:00:03]} 44.
Rb1 {[%eval -22,11] [%emt 0:00:06]} Ne8 {(Bd6) [%eval -36,11] [%emt 0:00:09]}
45. Bd2 {[%eval -38,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rxb1 {[%eval -30,12] [%emt 0:00:07]}
46. Qxb1 {[%eval -30,13] [%emt 0:00:08]} Nd6 {[%eval -31,12] [%emt 0:00:06]}
47. h4 {[%eval -31,12] [%emt 0:00:07]} Qa8 {(Bf6) [%eval -29,12] [%emt 0:00:10]
} 48. Qb6 {(Qb3) [%eval -39,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Qb7 {
[%eval -45,12] [%emt 0:00:08]} 49. Qxb7 {[%eval -46,14] [%emt 0:00:06]} Nxb7 {
[%eval -49,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 50. Na3 {(Kh2) [%eval -54,13] [%emt 0:00:09]} f6
{[%eval -58,14] [%emt 0:00:04]} 51. Nb5 {[%eval -59,14] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nb4 {
[%eval -65,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 52. Ne1 {[%eval -68,15] [%emt 0:00:14]} Bxb5 {
[%eval -61,14] [%emt 0:00:08]} 53. cxb5 {[%eval -61,15] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nd6 {
[%eval -74,15] [%emt 0:00:05]} 54. Bh3 {(b6) [%eval -72,15] [%emt 0:00:17]}
Nxb5 {[%eval -67,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 55. Bd7 {[%eval -69,13] [%emt 0:00:04]}
Nc3 {(Nd6) [%eval -84,15] [%emt 0:00:09]} 56. Be6+ {
[%eval -80,15] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kg7 {[%eval -79,16] [%emt 0:00:08]} 57. Kg2 {
[%eval -80,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} g5 {[%eval -90,15] [%emt 0:00:17]} 58. hxg5 {
[%eval -89,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} fxg5 {[%eval -82,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} 59. Bc4 {
[%eval -95,13] [%emt 0:00:07]} Kg6 {[%eval -89,13] [%emt 0:00:04]} 60. Nf3 {
(Be6) [%eval -101,13] [%emt 0:00:13]} Nc6 {[%eval -130,14] [%emt 0:00:07]} 61.
Kf1 {(Bd5) [%eval -134,13] [%emt 0:00:06]} g4 {[%eval -134,15] [%emt 0:00:06]}
62. Bd5 {[%eval -138,15] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nxd5 {[%eval -141,16] [%emt 0:00:05]}
63. exd5 {[%eval -139,17] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nb4 {[%eval -145,17] [%emt 0:00:06]}
64. Nxe5+ {[%eval -151,17] [%emt 0:00:08]} Kf6 {[%eval -152,18] [%emt 0:00:13]}
65. d6 {(Nc6) [%eval -162,18] [%emt 0:00:38]} Bxd6 {
[%eval -162,16] [%emt 0:00:01]} 66. Nc4 {[%eval -160,16] [%emt 0:00:05]} Be7 {
[%eval -162,16] [%emt 0:00:04]} 67. Ke2 {[%eval -160,16] [%emt 0:00:06]} Kf5 {
[%eval -161,16] [%emt 0:00:11]} 68. Bh6 {[%eval -161,16] [%emt 0:00:04]} Nd5 {
[%eval -167,16] [%emt 0:00:11]} 69. Bg7 {[%eval -163,14] [%emt 0:00:03]} Ke6 {
[%eval -167,15] [%emt 0:00:06]} 70. Be5 {[%eval -166,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} Bg5 {
(Nc3+) [%eval -167,14] [%emt 0:00:04]} 71. Bd6 {
(Bg7) [%eval -159,14] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nc3+ {[%eval -161,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} 72.
Ke1 {[%eval -161,16] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kd5 {[%eval -160,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} 73.
Bb8 {(Bc7) [%eval -157,14] [%emt 0:00:04]} Na2 {[%eval -159,15] [%emt 0:00:09]}
74. Kd1 {[%eval -160,15] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nc1 {
(Ke6) [%eval -158,16] [%emt 0:00:19]} 75. Kc2 {
(Ne5) [%eval -158,15] [%emt 0:00:04]} Bh6 {[%eval -150,15] [%emt 0:00:04]} 76.
Bc7 {[%eval -149,15] [%emt 0:00:06]} Na2 {[%eval -149,15] [%emt 0:00:04]} 77.
Kd1 {[%eval -149,15] [%emt 0:00:08]} Kc6 {(Bg7) [%eval -148,15] [%emt 0:00:09]}
78. Bb8 {(Bd8) [%eval -149,13] [%emt 0:00:02]} Nc3+ {
[%eval -149,14] [%emt 0:00:07]} 79. Ke1 {[%eval -150,15] [%emt 0:00:03]} Kd5 {
[%eval -144,15] [%emt 0:00:10]} 80. Bd6 {[%eval -144,15] [%emt 0:00:03]} Ne4 {
[%eval -148,16] [%emt 0:00:13]} 81. Be5 {[%eval -150,16] [%emt 0:00:07]} Nd2 {
(Bc1) [%eval -170,16] [%emt 0:00:16]} 82. Nxd2 {[%eval -199,16] [%emt 0:00:02]}
Bxd2+ {[%eval -832,19] [%emt 0:00:11]} 83. Kxd2 {
[%eval -1019,22] [%emt 0:00:56]} Kxe5 {[%eval -1019,21] [%emt 0:00:02]}
0-1
I gave you the games in the format of the computers use, to show you they are
ligit.
They are legit. The machine I used was an old PIII, so depth and kn/sec are not
as high as they would be on a very fast computer.
Admit it, Rybka is strong or it wouldn't inflict such damage to Shredder 8.
Try it at Standard time controls!
You should have thanked me for the engine, rather than call me infantile names.
I do Thank You Terry! It was kind of you to do so.
It allowed me to show you in spite of your protestations, and name calling
and assertions that Rybka could NOT Handle EGTB'S, that it certainly
can and does! That is part of the Scam that the Programmers of the
Engine want you to believe. Well, now you see it is a Scam, and they
present BULLSHIT!
If this isn't good enough for you, nothing will be. Yes it used the same book as
Shredder, and the playing field was as equal as possible on one machine.
In fact Shredder as position learning but Rybka hasn't, so Shredder 8 actually
had an advantage but still lost badly.
Rybka is good, very good.
Not in Analysis or in Test Positions which I showed.
How many do you want me to Test?
When it is fully debugged, with improved knowledge, both middlegame and endgame
and it comes with its own book it will be really an amazing program.
Nonsense
It is dominating with all its defects against all comers.
You admit it uses the Top Opening Book in use.
You now know it uses EGTB'S
In the analysis mode due to it's low kN/s it Sucks
Even on a High Speed Processor with a Gig of Hash it's
meaningless. The Program "evaluates" the position on the board,
which is the ROOT! It begins it's search and evaluation from Ply 1
again.
No new program in history has ever done this.
Nothing new.. the Whistle has blown.
This is a revolution in the making. Rybka will eventually be used by top
Grandmasters for analysis if Vas can reach the big market.
His lies about his Program are evident. There will be no large Market.
A milestone in computer chess.
Not even a footrace...
There's no question about it and that is why CCC was so interested in Rybka,
including Dr. Chrilly Donninger !! Hydra Fame!
Hydra can't beat Correspondence Players.
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